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1 Getting in to the action in stock market on Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:29 am

amila nishan


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Equity Analytic
hi, everyone..

I'm 22 who is very keen to start investing in cse, I have an account which was run by my father. But i want to take my own decisions(control my own account) and to do that i'll have to become an up-to-date investor like you guys, Smile I'm trying to get in to the business with the IPO of Trade Finance & Investments Limited (TFIL). Do you think its obvious? Can you kindly make me aware of the current situation of stock market? Which company's shares i should buy immmediatly?... I think with your support i'll be able to make appearance in this very interesting field.. I need your help.

Thank you[b]

2 Re: Getting in to the action in stock market on Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:22 am

manula


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First study the market behavior for some time then you can understand the situation. This days all the share price are little down due to credit clearance. There are manipulating shares and many fundamental shares in the market. I prefer fundamental shares but these type of shares you have to hold for some time to get the gain. But if you are going behind manipulating shares my advice is better to day trade..has to be careful of burning fingers and main thing is not to buy on credit. Other wise you can keep 60% of your PF with fundamental shares and can play with another 40% with manipulating sharers to get quick bucks. Decision is yours. Main thing Re-member this is a place of investing and not a casino house (gambling place) Very Happy

Have a happy hunting !!!

3 Re: Getting in to the action in stock market on Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:07 am

sriranga

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@ amila. nishan
Welcome to the forum and CSE.
There are so many bargain counters existing in CSE right now.
As manula said 100% correct.
First study the market behavior before committing in big time.
Always fundamental stocks will safeguard your investment.
To make quick money as like us, inevitably we need to follow the rallys. ( entry and exit - in correct time)
Best wishes.
@manula wrote:First study the market behavior for some time then you can understand the situation. This days all the share price are little down due to credit clearance. There are manipulating shares and many fundamental shares in the market. I prefer fundamental shares but these type of shares you have to hold for some time to get the gain. But if you are going behind manipulating shares my advice is better to day trade..has to be careful of burning fingers and main thing is not to buy on credit. Other wise you can keep 60% of your PF with fundamental shares and can play with another 40% with manipulating sharers to get quick bucks. Decision is yours. Main thing Re-member this is a place of investing and not a casino house (gambling place) Very Happy

Have a happy hunting !!!
@manula
Good advice for the new comers.
+ rep for both of you.

Have a good trade.

http://sharemarket-srilanka.blogspot.co.uk/

4 Re: Getting in to the action in stock market on Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:35 pm

amila nishan


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
Thanks a lot manura and sriranga for ur valuable thoughts. I'm currently reading all the topics in this forum to get some ideas about the situation, I'm an engineering student at uni of moratuwa. so my time is bit limited. But I must say you guys doing a great service here in this forum. This forum is like an online university to me. Best site ever. keep up good work. I really admire you guys a lot. I want to do a research on past data and identify the trends if there are so. Can u tell me where i can find the trading reports of cse for last two months(soft copies)? What I understand from your discussions is that this is not gambling and there is a technical way of doing business. I'm really looking for that kind of information.. It would be great if you keep in touch with me like you do. cheers. If you have any research data, please send me. thnx

5 Re: Getting in to the action in stock market on Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:39 pm

investor.sl

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You can find previous stock data available at http://www.slstock.com/stock/

6 Re: Getting in to the action in stock market on Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:28 pm

Roboticfx

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Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Amila Nishan, I love you I love you I love you
I am very happy to meet you in this forum because still you are a student like me and you are interesting in stock trading. I will give you some more good points.

1.Stock trading is not a job. Thinking it as a job is the most foolish thing because there isn't any guarantee that you can earn money monthly, as a salary .

2.Be a stony person in this field. Never allow anyone to put you into a hell of risk.

3.Follow the Warren Buffet's stipulate always.
1.Never get losses
2.Don't forget rule no.1

4.Don't follow your broker's saying without knowing what he said really. There are so many members in this forum who have got huge looses by following broker's decisions. But get his idea daily. Follow it, if you feel it's true and possible to happen.

5. Don't get broker's credit(debt) Actually this is a spoof. Your broker earn thousand of rupees from this method. Sometimes he may tell you that they allow you a percentage of your portfolio as debt. You should neglect it at once.
I think you have been heard about the credit clearance. Do you know what is it? Brokers sell shares which are belonged to investors and bought with debts, by force because of the rule of SEC.

5.Do analysis before purchasing any share. Main factors that you can use are charts, financial statements and news about the company.

6.Using online trading system is the best way of doing stock trading. If you haven't got it yet, please get it soon. DirectFN is the best trading software ever in Sri Lanka. It's better if you can use it.

7. If you feel your adviser doesn't help you and provides wrong information, change him suddenly. If entire broker firm has such behavior, change it soon. If there are problems in trading systems, you should change the entire broker firm as well.

8.Be patient at any situation. It's prevent you from getting losses.

9.Manage your portfolio and keep all transaction and share information clearly and well organised. Do it daily closing cse. It's a very important think. Remember to do calculations and certify that all transactions are correct. Rarely, values may be wrong.

10.Dedicate time to background studying such as chart analyzing, market factors, financial analysis, historical identification of movements of shares e.t.c.(If you have learned all of them, you are an expert.)
Help new investors with your experiences.(No need to be an expert. But don't say wrong things. You should responsible for all things)


Happy trading and happy future my friend!
Do your studies well!
All the best!

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

7 Re: Getting in to the action in stock market on Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:42 pm

amila nishan


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
I'm really really happy with ur reply ROBOTICFX. I never thought this forum would be this much friendly and helpful. I feel like i"m kind of protected when using this forum. I know there's a lot which i need to know. Still I'm in the research process. reading articles and e-books regarding stock market.

I'm doing CIMA and therefore bit familiar with some of the technical things in stock market(financial ratios which measure the performance of company).
I'm starting my online account by next week. so I have like a week to study this area into deep.

when we do online trading , do we have to use directFN(or similar 1)?. can we analyse charts in this software? How to get past trading data?


thnx again for your great contribution bro...

8 Re: Getting in to the action in stock market on Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:45 pm

amila nishan


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
is directFN similar to Amibroker?

9 Re: Getting in to the action in stock market on Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:05 pm

Roboticfx

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Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@ amila nishan, Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
There are many trading system such as CDAX software, bms web, GTOX but DirectFN is better than all of them as I experienced. It is provided as the web version and the software version. Software version is the best among them. The special thing is it is a real time system. That means all changes of share prices at the present are shown immediately. It provides many data to understand a share. There are thousand of other facilities also.(such as WEB TV)
(But directfn web version doesn't have these facilities but it's also a real time system)

Here's the link for the directfn web.
http://dfnweb.colombo-stocks.com/TradeWeb/homePage.f?method=homePage#

You can't log into it but you can see what is it.

There's a sub program is available with directfn called 'directfn charts' which contains all types of charts(upto 1week). I have never tried to get historical information(of 2-5 years ) through it because I'm also new to this system as I was using another system before with another broker. But there are many other ways to get those information. Market www.srilankaequity.com is very good. Here is the link.

10 Re: Getting in to the action in stock market on Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:13 pm

Roboticfx

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Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Amila,

I saw my above post has an error at the bottom but it cannot be corrected. It should be like this.

"Market www.srilankaequity.com very good. Link is www.srilankaequity.com.com"

amibroker is more advance than directfn as i heard and it's not a free software. ($199 standard and $279 pro) Very Happy

11 Re: Getting in to the action in stock market on Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:15 pm

amila nishan


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
As you were in the business for a reasonable time i think you are aware about the current situation. I cannot do research for all listed companies. even now i cut few lectures because i'm dying to get knowledge about this interesting field. Smile
So, can you name me the stocks that i have to watch for?
i.e. what are going down and what are overvalued. I think you would not be upset to share your analysis with me. If nobody help me to start, i'm in a great danger..

so, if you can please list all the active shares at this moment, and any other information that you think will be important. Then i can study about those companies and take my decisions.
Thanks.

12 Re: Getting in to the action in stock market on Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:16 pm

Roboticfx

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Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Oh, it occurred again. I will send it through a private message. Very Happy

13 hii on Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:18 pm

amila nishan


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
@Roboticfx wrote:Oh, it occurred again. I will send it through e-mail. Very Happy

Thank buddy... I think you may be my consultant.. Smile

14 Re: Getting in to the action in stock market on Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:31 pm

Roboticfx

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Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Amila,
You are totally correct. New investor can't do it at once. Please search about the post which are about good shares suitable for these days. There's a good post which has been posted by Think9.

I need more time to tell you what shares are best with the current market situation. Anyway, try below shares with small quantities.
Ask about them from your broker also. All these are short term.(15 days to 1 month)

1.ATL @2.60
2.MULL@2.70
3.PAP@4.60 or 4.70
4.FLCH@3.80(may be Mid term- 2 or 3 months)
5.Tess@3.60(Now it is overvalued)
6.Blue N @ 8.50
7CIFL@10.20 or 10.10
8.SIRA@4.50
9.WATA@17.50
10.CFT@9.10



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15 Re: Getting in to the action in stock market on Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:44 pm

Roboticfx

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Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@amila nishan wrote:
@Roboticfx wrote:Oh, it occurred again. I will send it through e-mail. Very Happy

Thank buddy... I think you may be my consultant.. Smile

Oya Mata wenne aiyya. I'm younger than you brother. however I help you through my experiences. I'm still not an expert. So, get the other's help also. small ville, slstock, windi5 are some of experts and moderators in this forum. But there are so many experts also.... Very Happy

16 Re: Getting in to the action in stock market on Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:52 pm

amila nishan


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
Thanks for your time... I will study about those stocks.

I don't know how to see all posts from a specific person.(let me know).

how do I get to know what are the active shares at a time. how you do it? Very Happy

how do we know the ideal time to sell? Very Happy

can we see the top gainers and losses using direct FN?(for a particular day)
p:s
yes you are younger than me. but when it comes to stock market you are way older than me Very Happy

I don't care whether you are an expert or no. important thing is you reply to all my stupid questions Very Happy
Really appreciate your effort. thanx

17 Re: Getting in to the action in stock market on Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:17 pm

Roboticfx

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Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
1.The best way of identifying active stocks is keep watching on them. If they trade quickly and rhythmically, they can be identified as active stocks.If some share is ideal for about 30 minutes, it can be identified as inactive stock.
Most active shares of a particular day are shown under the top stocks(in directfn) All trading systems have this facility. Remeber there are sudden share movements called rallies. Keeping away from them is better than entering. Search about the rallies in the forum(Eg:-EAST)You can get a correct idea from it.

2.I haven't tried to see all posts of a specific person. I will tell you how to do it just after found them.

3.Best selling and purchasing time can be identified by understanding the pattern of a share. Anyway, usually If the market is red(down) it's not suitable for selling shares and suitable for buying. But some shares reach to the highest price level in a red market day and some go down even in a green market day.

3.Yeah! you can get top losers, top gainers, most active stocks, 52week high and low shares and so much more!


Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


Tip! There are valuable posts made by 'sas'. Please check them. Very useful even for us.

18 Re: Getting in to the action in stock market on Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:19 pm

amila nishan


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
thanx for new information. .. How do i exactly check a post from SAS or THINK9?

19 Re: Getting in to the action in stock market on Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:26 pm

Roboticfx

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Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Here is the way of finding posts of a specific person.

1.Click on the "search" which has been shown under the picture, top of the page.

2. Then click on the 'advanced search'.

3.Type the person's name in the text box in front of 'search by author' and press enter.

4.Then the list of all posts will be appeared on the screen. Click on them to view.

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20 Re: Getting in to the action in stock market on Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:39 pm

amila nishan


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
ok.. cheers

21 Re: Getting in to the action in stock market on Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:17 pm

NimeshaJK

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@amila nishan wrote:hi, everyone..

I'm 22 who is very keen to start investing in cse, I have an account which was run by my father. But i want to take my own decisions(control my own account) and to do that i'll have to become an up-to-date investor like you guys, Smile I'm trying to get in to the business with the IPO of Trade Finance & Investments Limited (TFIL). Do you think its obvious? Can you kindly make me aware of the current situation of stock market? Which company's shares i should buy immmediatly?... I think with your support i'll be able to make appearance in this very interesting field.. I need your help.

Thank you[b]

Before you jump in, watch the market a few days.. read the articles published in this forum regarding the stocks and stock behaviour in the CSE. You'll get a basic idea. Read alot. Understand the psychology of the traders.

Wish you all the best.
If you want more info look in here..
http://njkentertainment.freeforums.org/index.php

http://njkentertainment.freeforums.org/index.php

22 Re: Getting in to the action in stock market on Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:18 pm

amila nishan


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
Thanks NimashaJK..
I think I need your support to start my career.

23 Re: Getting in to the action in stock market on Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:33 am

Chinwi

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Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Can you kindly make me aware of the current situation of stock market?
Current situation is very good for a new comer but very bad for the people who entered few month ago when the prices was much higher than this.

Current situation is like a bomb waiting to explode bringing good or bad results. We actually cannot predict which way it may go. This is not because of the internal economics but due to uncertainty in USA and European economies. 60% of our export market and over 70% of our high-spending tourism market is from that region.

You have to lean by watching and by gaining experience. Do not put lot of money at the beginning. If you see a loss do not panic. Usually stocks may go down after you buy but regain after sometime. Do not expect miracles although they happen sometimes. If you buy share with good future you have to give them some time to incubate and produce good results.

Which company's shares i should buy immmediatly?...

No such thing at the moment. For learning purposes you may collect some. There may be a uptrend from 3rd Oct. due to end of force selling.

24 Re: Getting in to the action in stock market on Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:56 am

amila nishan


Equity Analytic
Equity Analytic
@Chinwi wrote:Can you kindly make me aware of the current situation of stock market?
Current situation is very good for a new comer but very bad for the people who entered few month ago when the prices was much higher than this.

Current situation is like a bomb waiting to explode bringing good or bad results. We actually cannot predict which way it may go. This is not because of the internal economics but due to uncertainty in USA and European economies. 60% of our export market and over 70% of our high-spending tourism market is from that region.

You have to lean by watching and by gaining experience. Do not put lot of money at the beginning. If you see a loss do not panic. Usually stocks may go down after you buy but regain after sometime. Do not expect miracles although they happen sometimes. If you buy share with good future you have to give them some time to incubate and produce good results.



Which company's shares i should buy immmediatly?...

No such thing at the moment. For learning purposes you may collect some. There may be a uptrend from 3rd Oct. due to end of force selling.


Thnaks a lot friend... I'm still learning how to analyse the market. refering your valuable posts and some e-books. Do you think the methods and strategics used for US and europian markets can be applied in cse as well?
because I'm referring foreign books.

Also, do u think technical analysis will work in the situation of cse? and, what will happen to the market in the future with new credit regulations?(I'm not referring to the nearest credit clearence, but the whole future)

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