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1 Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:52 pm

Quibit

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Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Hey Guys
In order to streamline the voting system, which affect the reputation of the members, we have brought in a new variable/rule which requires minimum of +10 reputation points before a member is eligible to vote.
Quibi


NEW REVISION
Objective of the new revision is to exclude Negative (-) points. When Voted Negatively to a post it will only be indicated in the 'Red Bar' and no points will be deducted from the Members Points tally. If voted positively (+) it will increase the points tally of the Member. Higher the Points tally better would be the reputation of the Member. Details are as follows;

Points
Positive Votes = +1 Points
Negative Votes = 0 Points
'Thanks' Button = +3

Voting Eligibility
Minimum No of Posts Before Vote Count = 10 posts
Minimum Reputation Points Before Vote Count = +1
Maximum Votes Per Day = 5



Last edited by Quibit on Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:03 pm; edited 2 times in total

2 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:57 pm

tubal


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Good but since only a handful of people have 10 reputations, that means no one will be able to vote.
We demand that democracy be restored! Laughing

3 Members % on Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:33 pm

milanka

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@Quibi : Could you kindly update this forum, the percentage of members who have more than +10 reputation points ? if its less than 33% (I mean less then 33% of the total members) then your selection criteria is unreasonable.

Note : Hope you are not following 'Goni Billa' theory CSE.



Last edited by milanka on Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:34 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Added a Note.)

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/u188

4 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:42 pm

Quibit

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Hey

I agree, we all need the democracy and the voting rights. In a democratic society Minors are not eligible to vote until they reach majority.

I am willing to revise the system based on member recommendations. Please drop a line.

Quibi

5 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:00 pm

tubal


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
The problem is that everyone is a minor here. And not everyone votes. So some people may never reach 10 votes. I propose that it should be like this

1) +10 reps regardless of number of posts
OR
2) 50 posts with zero or more reps

6 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:57 pm

Academic


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
This creates the possibility that anyone who had 10 reps (even by luck) at the beginning of implementing this rule can block any other one becoming a voting member as they can give negative reps for those and keep net reps below ten. This is exactly how supper power countries (like America, China) control United Nation's Security council. As you may see in my profile I never have used voting. But like democracy.
On the other hand there is a point in your action. As there is a value for + rep now and any newbie can't distort reputations.
In the final analysis, however, if some responsible person can look after on who should be promoted as voting member (giving reps for their posts), your new rule is acceptable.

7 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:59 pm

mono

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This is a good change. three days a go i had -28 rep.

8 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:58 am

Slstock

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@Quibit wrote:Hey Guys
In order to streamline the voting system, which affect the reputation of the members, we have brought in a new variable/rule which requires minimum of +10 reputation points before a member is eligible to vote.
Quibi

Quibi,

This is a two sided knife. Yes on one hand you need to protect the reputation of the existing members while also giving democratic right of vote to a relative new comer.

As pointed out I am not sure how many have Rep over 10+. If this the case if a relative newbee was helped by a member here the newbee should still be able to rep or thank or receive the same from another new bee.

Minimum of 10 Reps seems to be too drastic. You should reduce this limit.



Last edited by slstock on Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:04 am; edited 1 time in total

9 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:00 am

Fresher


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Cannot agree with this theory.

I do not know what the criteria was earlier, but since this is a sudden change, the ones who have voting rights have an unfair advantage.
There was a time when every pro PCH post got a negative and anti PCH post got many positive votes. Is this the eligibility criteria then?
What id the members who have 10+ give a + rep only if it is an area of interest for them?

Further, when you said "minors cant vote in a democracy till they reach majority", did you mean "minor-adult" or "minority-majority"?
cos if you meant minority, it is a very harsh statement also minority has voting privileges in this country.

thank you.

10 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:46 am

Academic


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
In addition to above points I would like to make following points

1. By Thursday evening PCH quarterly reports out and was heated discussion on the forum on that. It is not a secret that in which anti-PCHs got + rep and pro got -. Thus, by Monday (locking date of rep), it is reasonable to expect that anti-PCHs got higher reps. In this context by locking by Monday has effectively awarded domination of the forum to anti-PCHs.

This is unfair, as I believe
i. Everyone should have fair privileges if it is a good forum.
ii. Opinions may be right or wrong. Thus there might be a day our current thinking is proved to be wrong (I still think PCH is overvalued).

2. This is like asking hints form thief's mother (horage ammagen pena ahanawa wage). Those with negative reps continue to have negatives and positives with positives.

3. Getting one top poster many negatives prior to locking is not a valid argument to continue locking. As a top poster may be disliked by community. Number of posts is not equal to reputation. Further respect is drastically different from reputation which should be earned.

4. To prove some of these points, look at profiles of top posters. There is one among top five posters who has given 237 negative reps compared to 134 positives. My question is to where this positives went and most importantly to where the negatives went.

Admin
Do you want to make this another investnow?

My suggestion is to give quota of 5 reps (either positive or negative) per day for every member. So that they will use scarce resources wisely.



Last edited by Academic on Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:13 pm; edited 4 times in total (Reason for editing : interchanged pro and anti. Corrected a typo as pointed out by npp. And added per day in the final sentence. Inserted "some of" to 4th point. Now read as "To prove some of these points".)

11 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:51 am

Fresher


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@Academic wrote:

1. By Thursday evening PCH quarterly reports out and was heated discussion on the forum on that. It is not a secret that in which anti-PCHs got - rep and pro got +. Thus, by Monday (locking date of rep), it is reasonable to expect that pro-PCHs got higher reps. In this context by locking by Monday has effectively awarded domination of the forum to pro-PCHs.




i think it's the other way around.
pro-PCH posts got -ve

12 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:58 am

Academic


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
npp wrote:
@Academic wrote:

1. By Thursday evening PCH quarterly reports out and was heated discussion on the forum on that. It is not a secret that in which anti-PCHs got - rep and pro got +. Thus, by Monday (locking date of rep), it is reasonable to expect that pro-PCHs got higher reps. In this context by locking by Monday has effectively awarded domination of the forum to pro-PCHs.




i think it's the other way around.
pro-PCH posts got -ve

Thanks npp. That is what I intended to write. It is a typo. Anti got + and pro got -. I'll edit it.

13 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:56 pm

mono

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@Academic wrote:
4. To prove these points, look at profiles of top posters. There is a one among top five posters who has given 237 negative reps compared to 134 positives.





but if you look at the dumping that was going on today. people who got the negative rep for spewing bullshit deserved it.

14 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:45 pm

$$$


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Sorry Guys I missed all of this fyi I haven't given any one a + or a - even though many members deserved to get - for some lewd postings. + also should have been given for some good postings..... I probably will start using my + and - a bit more often. This whole concept of + or - is a tricky one as you can give a - rep just for some one not agreeing with your opinion which isn't fair really or a + for some one who agrees with your comment ..... I think Like sign and dislike sign should be given for comments ( like FB) these should not effect your reputation and your your + or - reputaion should be based on the following factors :

Crude language

False Propaganda

False financial analysis (not accidental typos etc )

Insulting Other members

Repeated Posts

Stock promotion without any basis eg : will Go beyond x price and will pass y stock price on Monday or It will shoot passed x next week .....they should be backed by financials or some level of Justification...I think just not to make the site too regulated.....posts such as this should have
Eg : PCH might go up in the future as theri marketing Arm wil be strengthened due to senior Marketeer Failan taking over he might look in to new markets etc etc ..... at least this is something to go as opposed to like what I said above


15 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:34 pm

$$$


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
This is what i posted on another thread....

Sorry Guys I missed all of this fyi I haven't given any one a + or a - even though many members deserved to get - for some lewd postings. + also should have been given for some good postings..... I probably will start using my + and - a bit more often. This whole concept of + or - is a tricky one as you can give a - rep just for some one not agreeing with your opinion which isn't fair really or a + for some one who agrees with your comment ..... I think Like sign and dislike sign should be given for comments ( like FB) these should not effect your reputation and your your + or - reputaion should be based on the following factors :

Crude language
False Propaganda
False financial analysis (not accidental typos etc )
Insulting Other members
Repeated Posts

Stock promotion without any basis eg : will Go beyond x price and will pass y stock price on Monday or It will shoot passed x next week .....they should be backed by financials or some level of Justification...I think just not to make the site too regulated.....posts such as this should have
Eg : PCH might go up in the future as theri marketing Arm wil be strengthened due to senior Marketeer Failan taking over he might look in to new markets etc etc ..... at least this is something to go on as opposed to just saying a share will go up on hind sight or Fortune telling which should not be tolerated.



Last edited by Quibit on Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:18 pm; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : format condensed)

16 Agree !! on Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:55 pm

milanka

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@ $$$ ;- Agree with you 110%

http://forum.srilankaequity.com/u188

17 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:00 pm

Gaja


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Good

18 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:00 pm

mono

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Shocked Shocked

finding creative ways to insult other people is the best part about internet forums

Razz

19 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:19 pm

tubal


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@mono wrote:Shocked Shocked

finding creative ways to insult other people is the best part about internet forums

Razz

Oh yes!

$$$ as a moderator, you have the power to do something beyond just voting. You can delete or modify posts. I hope you will use that power well.

20 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:16 pm

$$$


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Creative ways should be permitted specially if the recepient doesn't get it lol uhummm and the admins and moderators as well.Yeah Tubal keeping a close eye on things Twisted Evil

21 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:19 pm

tubal


Vice President - Equity Analytics
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@$$$ wrote:Creative ways should be permitted specially if the recepient doesn't get it lol uhummm and the admins and moderators as well.Yeah Tubal keeping a close eye on things Twisted Evil

Smile

22 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:05 pm

Rocky

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Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Those who know the lingo very well can say the worst thing in colourful words. just like pricking a banana with a needle!
It just goes in and no one is aware.

Statements can be loaded with sarcasm however, re-reading the statements carefully you would note the negative or insinuating ideologies coated with as Mono said once with thick layers of Seville Marmalade! Embarassed

23 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:28 am

Slstock

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Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
@Quibit wrote:Hey Guys
In order to streamline the voting system, which affect the reputation of the members, we have brought in a new variable/rule which requires minimum of +10 reputation points before a member is eligible to vote.
Quibi

Quibi
Have you made a decsion on this yet. What is the current implementation. I feel the new comers will be done injustice if they cannot exercise there rights for voting . +10 reps is not fair I think given that there will be limited number of people with reps over 10. Maybe you should look at number of postings + reps to determine to right balance.


24 POINTS & REPUTATION :?: on Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:31 pm

SmartMoney

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Dear Admins,

Can you please explain how these points & reputations are given Question
What's the advantage of having them Question
Is there anyway that we can use them Question
What is meant by the the things which appears below our names (stock trader, stock analytic, moderator etc.) Question
What is meant by the green or red line that we can see on the right hand side of some of the posts & comments Question

Dear members,

You all are also welcome to submit such problems you are having for the attention of the admins .

Thank You.

25 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:51 pm

Quibit

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Hi
Please visit 'Stock & Forum Help' section on the home page. All information relating to reputation and point system are available for your reference.

Quibi

26 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:01 pm

Slstock

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@Quibit wrote:Hi
Please visit 'Stock & Forum Help' section on the home page. All information relating to reputation and point system are available for your reference.

Quibi

Quibi , does a member still need +10 reps to make a vote or have you changed the rule?

27 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:08 pm

Quibit

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Yes, you are correct. Member needs minimum + 10 reputation points to get voting rights. This was implemented in order to ensure that member do not abuse them voting system.

28 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:22 pm

MarketResearch

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@SmartMoney wrote:Dear Admins,

Can you please explain how these points & reputations are given Question
What's the advantage of having them Question
Is there anyway that we can use them Question
What is meant by the the things which appears below our names (stock trader, stock analytic, moderator etc.) Question
What is meant by the green or red line that we can see on the right hand side of some of the posts & comments Question

Dear members,

You all are also welcome to submit such problems you are having for the attention of the admins .

Thank You.

Machan,

Do not worry.You have just minus 1(-1)
See , I have -63.Be cool.
Minus or plus kandada?We do things in our style.Salenda epa from small winds.
Me mama inne Pidurutalagala Kanda wage.Podi podi hulan enawa.Evilla yanawa.Api hitiya wagema innawa.
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

29 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:56 pm

Slstock

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@Quibit wrote:Yes, you are correct. Member needs minimum + 10 reputation points to get voting rights. This was implemented in order to ensure that member do not abuse them voting system.


Quibi

I posted this also under the Help section.

"I feel the new comers will be done injustice if they cannot exercise there rights for voting . +10 reps is not fair I think given that there will be limited number of people with reps over 10. Maybe you should look at number of postings + reps to determine to right balance."

Even amongst the Top posters discounting you there are only 7 people with over 10 reps. So how many actually to date can vote? Must a very less number. To dater I see 797 resigtered members. I get a feeling that over 96-98% of them cannot vote. This will discourage the new comers to post good as only limited minority can vote to encourage them.

30 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:00 pm

Rajitha

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@slstock wrote:
@Quibit wrote:Yes, you are correct. Member needs minimum + 10 reputation points to get voting rights. This was implemented in order to ensure that member do not abuse them voting system.


Quibi

I posted this also under the Help section.

"I feel the new comers will be done injustice if they cannot exercise there rights for voting . +10 reps is not fair I think given that there will be limited number of people with reps over 10. Maybe you should look at number of postings + reps to determine to right balance."

Even amongst the Top posters discounting you there are only 7 people with over 10 reps. So how many actually to date can vote? Must a very less number. To dater I see 797 resigtered members. I get a feeling that over 96-98% of them cannot vote. This will discourage the new comers to post good as only limited minority can vote to encourage them.

I agree with this! I belive the best way would be about 10 posts AND 1-2 positive vote
There aren't that many giving away votes now and even for me I made soem great posts and predictions that came true but no one have votes to give Very Happy !

31 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:03 pm

smallville

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Constructive criticism is ok for ppl who dont understand the point of others and keep on being negative on rethinking.. we shud value every1s ideas and take the best out of all.. We should be able to consider other ideas and see the value of those.. If we dont, we have to shut up and listen ;-)

I strongly stand against the bad mouthing and swearing (if happens) kinda things against each other. We're losing to be humans then so I'll edit those posts asap..

32 another thing on Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:08 pm

DMA


Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic
Those reputed members never give votes for me becz i made some arguments with them. iut is quite unfair but i hope it is the only way to make this place clean.

but i just put analysis on certain stock. There were no predictions.all were theoratical assumptions.some one has given me a - also.
It is like his car and his pertol.wt to do. lol
hope they will do some thing possitive if that stock moves.

thank you guys.

33 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:22 pm

Quibit

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Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Hey guys..

We are agreeable to reduce the minimum reputation point required to be eligible to vote to a reasonable level. Accordingly we are reducing it to +1 subject to the approval of the forum moderators.

Thanks.

34 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:43 pm

mark

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hay friends,i don't need any points or reputation,because i don't know anything when comparing to your guys knowledge......i need only to share my knowledge and learn from others..........thanks.........

35 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:12 pm

Rajitha

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@Quibit wrote:Hey guys..

We are agreeable to reduce the minimum reputation point required to be eligible to vote to a reasonable level. Accordingly we are reducing it to +1 subject to the approval of the forum moderators.

Thanks.

IF possible can you add some amount of posts to that also plz! Say like 5-10 ?

36 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:18 pm

Quibit

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Hey,

Thanks for that suggestion.
As suggested in addition to the requirement of +1 reputation point, Member would be required to post minimum of 10 posts/messages before they become eligible to vote.

I am sure this will resolve the voting issue one and for all.

Quibit

37 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:00 pm

chamith

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i can not seems to have the voting rights,,,,

38 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:18 am

Quibit

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Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Hey chamith

You need to have minimum +1 reputation. Your current reputation is -2. Try to build your reputation.

Quibi

39 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:35 am

chamith

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Thanks a lot...
i m on board.... Very Happy

40 Re: Reputation/ Member Voting Eligibility on Mon Feb 21, 2011 7:46 am

smallville

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Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Guys,

Point structure has been revised for the benefit for all of you.. So use it wisely..
Pls dont display personal anger towards anyone just becuz they dont take your opinion seriously and give negative points to them.. Misleading posts would deserve a - though..
Use the forum for the benefit of the community.. learn, discuss as much as possible, at the sametime benefit from it..

Good luck.

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