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1 Criticizing COCR share repurchase on Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:28 pm

whyzo


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First topic message reminder :

When consider the finance industry COCR is the best performer in last 3 years and no one able to match their growth rate even in banking sector. Two foreign parties already invested on COCR, US party paid two times from book value and recently Group Leasing paid four times from book value. Why, Are they mad? No any other local company for investing in finance sector? How about giants like LB, CF, PLC? At least any foreign evaluation or offer for them? No ,Why ? because they are doing business in traditional way.
 
Unluckily COCR didn’t get enough back support from broker firms and also   no brand ambassadors or promoters(like for HEXP) to talk much about positive things. But all we know, truth is they have done the biggest deal in the finance industry (even in the any industry, history), to sell 29.99% for giving only seats in their director board panel. Now they have very powerful director panel with foreign experts (US and Japanese)
 
Think yourself, definitely share price should go up to 111 (at least ) very soon.


41 Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase on Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:24 am

stockback


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@samaritan wrote:The share price will move according to supply & demand. If everyone is targeting 80/=, i wonder who will be the buyer at 80/=.


kauda hithuwe HEXP gani kiyala 100.

plenty of stock traded around 100 level.

think and invest...

42 Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase on Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:47 am

stockback


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example

LB Finance 

now doing 900 Millions per quarter. maybe they have new target 4000 Millions for financial year.

think
COCR doping same amount.
4000/320 = EPS 12.5

this year they have target 3200 Millions, 

COCr plan is clear. targeting to expand the business during next 2-3 years. 

dont forget 1.5% stocks are holding in the market without top 20 holders.

43 Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase on Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:58 am

TARGET


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@stockback wrote:
think and invest...
Yes. Think and invest and then promote day and night till you sell the quantity.. Very Happy

44 Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase on Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:39 pm

stockback


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@TARGET wrote:
@stockback wrote:
think and invest...
Yes. Think and invest and then promote day and night till you sell the quantity.. Very Happy


common guys. 


CSE very under value compare with other countries. 
I am not think my words effect to others. I said think and invest.

some people buying Craps. example CIFL. CIFL move 1-2. then gain 100% without anything

why COCR not move 100%. it has value and also 29.99% stocks buying one party at 111

Think and Invest..

these days Market Red. then we cannot expect. I hope today green day.still Red  maybe last moment this will be change

45 Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase on Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:18 pm

ruwan326


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@stockback wrote:
@TARGET wrote:
@stockback wrote:
think and invest...
Yes. Think and invest and then promote day and night till you sell the quantity.. Very Happy


common guys. 


CSE very under value compare with other countries. 
I am not think my words effect to others. I said think and invest.

some people buying Craps. example CIFL. CIFL move 1-2. then gain 100% without anything

why COCR not move 100%. it has value and also 29.99% stocks buying one party at 111

Think and Invest..

these days Market Red. then we cannot expect. I hope today green day.still Red  maybe last moment this will be change
TILL MARKET GET GREEN LETS HAVE A PAUSE...........
NEXT MONDAY MIGHT BE THE DAY FOR COCR
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

46 Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase on Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:14 pm

Chinwi

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කසාද බැඳින්න ආසාවෙ පැණි හලාගෙන​ ඉන්න​ කොල්ලෙක් උනත් කට්ටිය එකතුවෙලා උස්සන් ගිහින් හනීමූන් කාමරේට දාල වහල බලාගෙන ඉන්නකොට කොච්චර දක්ස උනත් ඌට වැඩේ කර ගන්න බැරි වෙනව නැත්නම් ප්‍රමාද වෙනව​.
කට්ටිය එක්වෙලා COCR උස්සගෙන දුවන්නෙත් අන්න ඒ වගේ.
ඔන්න නගී මෙන්න නගී කියල දෙන තල්ලුවෙ තදේ වැඩිවෙලා නගින්න ගිය එකත් නැවතිලා වගේ.

47 Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase on Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:21 pm

Teller

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We cant take any decision based on 111/- deal. Some times who knows COCR owner returned excess money by under the hand to thai group?

48 Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase on Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:42 pm

stockback


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@Teller wrote:We cant take any decision based on 111/- deal. Some times who knows COCR owner returned excess money by under the hand to thai group?


if main share holder doing this then we can guess something else also.

but second share holder doing(mainly) and third person also involve. who selling 22% and 0.74% they need money. 

Think and Invest.

some one saying here who buying at 80 level. I can show one example COCR. 29.99% stocks buying at 111 price. 

these days market red. then we cannot expect super run. wait bit time. and deal agreements are sign 03.10.2016. clearly mention on Doc of Group Lease.


Land deal ekak nisa 40 HEXP - 100 yanna pulwwannam. ita wada honda company ekak. 111 walata share price eka evaluate karanawnam aiy COCR ta 100 yanna bari. 

next financial report is give plenty of answers. I expect over 2.5 EPS for this quarter 

Kuhkathwaya nawathwanna .

49 Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase on Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:12 pm

ONTHEMONEY


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Hi Teller,

Please clarify on grey areas of your comments as I have pointed already before posting bogus information!

Thanks

50 COCR VS HONEYMOON on Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:15 pm

ruwan326

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@Chinwi wrote:කසාද බැඳින්න ආසාවෙ පැණි හලාගෙන​  ඉන්න​  කොල්ලෙක් උනත් කට්ටිය එකතුවෙලා  උස්සන් ගිහින්  හනීමූන් කාමරේට දාල වහල බලාගෙන ඉන්නකොට කොච්චර දක්ස උනත් ඌට වැඩේ කර ගන්න බැරි වෙනව නැත්නම් ප්‍රමාද වෙනව​.
කට්ටිය එක්වෙලා COCR උස්සගෙන දුවන්නෙත් අන්න ඒ වගේ.
ඔන්න  නගී මෙන්න නගී  කියල දෙන තල්ලුවෙ තදේ වැඩිවෙලා  නගින්න ගිය එකත් නැවතිලා වගේ.
Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

51 Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase on Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:21 pm

trader7


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Manager - Equity Analytics
@stockback,

"Land deal ekak nisa 40 HEXP - 100 yanna pulwwannam. ita wada honda company ekak. 111 walata share price eka evaluate karanawnam aiy COCR ta 100 yanna bari."

Hariyata hari

52 Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase on Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:54 pm

Chinwi

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@Teller wrote:We cant take any decision based on 111/- deal. Some times who knows COCR owner returned excess money by under the hand to thai group?

@ONTHEMONEY wrote:Hi Teller,

Please clarify on grey areas of your comments as I have pointed already before posting bogus information!

I smell Teller knows more than he write in this regard.

I too refrain producing many info related to some business deals and other links bet Sri Lankans & Thais and their names  .  Why should I ?
All are available in the Internet.
Even in old threads in this forum .

53 Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase on Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:17 pm

vic19

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The CSE and SEC should investigate these matters specially with regards to the price difference ?

Specially when the stock trading very less compare to the private transfer deal.

The main purpose of SEC is this is in it ?

Hey but we taking of Sri Lanka SEC . They might get a grand hampers from the beneficiary during Christmas ...........very difficult to change the cultural habits....

54 Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase on Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:57 pm

samaritan


Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
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COCR to COCKR

55 Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase on Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:16 pm

hiransilva23


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I think teller is right.111 price only a show.real price should below 80.

56 Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase on Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:28 pm

Miss-Sangeetha

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Since COCR is not run by sole trader or sole person and run by board of directors so no point of talking about COCR owner. If there are any secrets in this transaction, it is very difficult to maintain for long time as COCR is a PLC

But in the past our great Dr.T.Senthilverl bought so many crap shares above the market transact price through crossing or private placement.

But later it was transpired that crap share companies were reached outside agreement with Dr.T.Senthilverl to pay back the price difference as Dr.T.Senthilverl bought the crap shares well below the market transact price and the CSE transact price of Dr.T.Senthilverl only for outsiders view and encouragement or manipulation.

But under the private placement or crossing, fixing the share price above or below the market transect price is a usual practice. When COCR was traded at 45, fixing 111 is a question mark.    

57 Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase on Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:32 pm

whyzo


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Equity Analytic
Don't panic and argue, let anyone sell and buy at any price. 
But finally I have to say, 

@Teller - You have misled this forum saying about right issue, its very clear about your intention. Pls use your reputation to help other people

@chinwi - don't underestimate foreign involvement and investment, GLC introduced by US party and many more to come.  

@ruwan36 - rumour is going on, but its same party.

My recommendation is, if you have holding capacity, dont sell now, hold it for few weeks.

But its very clear, this forum is full of garbage with promoters and broker ambassadors



Last edited by whyzo on Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:46 pm; edited 1 time in total

58 Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase on Wed Oct 12, 2016 9:46 pm

kapifm

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Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase

 by whyzo Today at 9:32 pm

Don't panic and argue, let anyone sell and buy at any price. 
But finally I have to say, 

@Teller - You have misled this forum saying about right issue, its very clear about your intention. Pls use your reputation to help other people

@chinwi - don't underestimate foreign involvement and investment, GLC introduced by US party and many more to come.  

@ruwan36 - rumour is going on, but its same party.

Wait, You can see the answer very soon. 

This forum is full of garbage with promoters and broker ambassadors



Totally agree with you Very Happy

59 Truth behind this forum on Thu Oct 13, 2016 5:38 am

ruwan326

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@whyzo wrote:Don't panic and argue, let anyone sell and buy at any price. 
But finally I have to say, 

@Teller - You have misled this forum saying about right issue, its very clear about your intention. Pls use your reputation to help other people

@chinwi - don't underestimate foreign involvement and investment, GLC introduced by US party and many more to come.  

@ruwan36 - rumour is going on, but its same party.

My recommendation is, if you have holding capacity, dont sell now, hold it for few weeks.

But its very clear, this forum is full of garbage with promoters and broker ambassadors
cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers

60 Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase on Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:47 am

Chinwi

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@whyzo wrote:@chinwi - don't underestimate foreign involvement and investment, GLC introduced by US party and many more to come.  


I am not underestimating anything.  We have had enough experience with Platinum mines brought by GREG, Power chimney miracle brought by BLUE , Lanka's best fund managers of CIFL , million dollar per tree Touchwood etc.

I did not lose a cent from any of those dramas. So far I have identified the devil when he is in saint form. I play with fundamentals. If something is not tallying with laws of nature I do not touch. That's all.

In addition, you can't hide the history and behavior of people  in some companies to  real investing crowd in Sri Lanka . (not to the young boys)
They know who is Chulaka Gunawardena , places or  countries he rooted ,  his friends of friends of friends and what sort of things they did past many decades.

While some members can talk about broker boys , demoters, promoters others  can suspect those who talk day and night about COCR. I donno sometimes Culaka Ginawardena may living with is us here


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@ sangeetha,

Since COCR is not run by sole trader or sole person and run by board of directors so no point of talking about COCR owner. If there are any secrets in this transaction, it is very difficult to maintain for long time as COCR is a PLC

I think you are missing a point here. There is no deal with COCR. (except the selling of Banla tiny sub)  I even saw someone wrote COCR is getting huge profit by selling it @ 111/- !

Three individuals  directly or indirectly are selling their holding to some other party.  That is all.
We are watching and expecting money coming to our pockets.

සාල වනේ නොවේ නුවර අලියෙක් හිටියා
ඒ අලියට   ගව්වක් දිග හොඬයක්   තිබුනා
තායිලන්තෙ එහා කොනේ ඇතින්න ඉන්නේ
දාර හොඬේ කර ගහගෙන වඳුරෝ ඉන්නේ
අලි නැටුවා අපි තැලුනා වඳුරො කියයි ද ?
you can replace any word as you like Razz

61 Re: Criticizing COCR share repurchase on Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:05 am

ruwan326

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@Chinwi wrote:
@whyzo wrote:@chinwi - don't underestimate foreign involvement and investment, GLC introduced by US party and many more to come.  


I am not underestimating anything.  We have had enough experience with Platinum mines brought by GREG, Power chimney miracle brought by BLUE , Lanka's best fund managers of CIFL , million dollar per tree Touchwood etc.

I did not lose a cent from any of those dramas. So far I have identified the devil when he is in saint form. I play with fundamentals. If something is not tallying with laws of nature I do not touch. That's all.

In addition, you can't hide the history and behavior of people  in some companies to  real investing crowd in Sri Lanka . (not to the young boys)
They know who is Chulaka Gunawardena , places or  countries he rooted ,  his friends of friends of friends and what sort of things they did past many decades.

While some members can talk about broker boys , demoters, promoters others  can suspect those who talk day and night about COCR. I donno sometimes Culaka Ginawardena may living with is us here


----
@ sangeetha,

Since COCR is not run by sole trader or sole person and run by board of directors so no point of talking about COCR owner. If there are any secrets in this transaction, it is very difficult to maintain for long time as COCR is a PLC

I think you are missing a point here. There is no deal with COCR. (except the selling of Banla tiny sub)  I even saw someone wrote COCR is getting huge profit by selling it @ 111/- !

Three individuals  directly or indirectly are selling their holding to some other party.  That is all.
We are watching and expecting money coming to our pockets.

සාල වනේ නොවේ නුවර අලියෙක් හිටියා
ඒ අලියට   ගව්වක් දිග හොඬයක්   තිබුනා
තායිලන්තෙ එහා කොනේ ඇතින්න ඉන්නේ
දාර හොඬේ කර ගහගෙන වඳුරෝ ඉන්නේ
අලි නැටුවා අපි තැලුනා වඳුරො කියයි ද ?
you can replace any word as  you like Razz
Can we put "honeymoon"  from your last post Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


62 I THINK වඳුරො GONNA MAKE IT on Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:04 pm

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@ruwan326 wrote:
@Chinwi wrote:
@whyzo wrote:@chinwi - don't underestimate foreign involvement and investment, GLC introduced by US party and many more to come.  


I am not underestimating anything.  We have had enough experience with Platinum mines brought by GREG, Power chimney miracle brought by BLUE , Lanka's best fund managers of CIFL , million dollar per tree Touchwood etc.

I did not lose a cent from any of those dramas. So far I have identified the devil when he is in saint form. I play with fundamentals. If something is not tallying with laws of nature I do not touch. That's all.

In addition, you can't hide the history and behavior of people  in some companies to  real investing crowd in Sri Lanka . (not to the young boys)
They know who is Chulaka Gunawardena , places or  countries he rooted ,  his friends of friends of friends and what sort of things they did past many decades.

While some members can talk about broker boys , demoters, promoters others  can suspect those who talk day and night about COCR. I donno sometimes Culaka Ginawardena may living with is us here


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@ sangeetha,

Since COCR is not run by sole trader or sole person and run by board of directors so no point of talking about COCR owner. If there are any secrets in this transaction, it is very difficult to maintain for long time as COCR is a PLC

I think you are missing a point here. There is no deal with COCR. (except the selling of Banla tiny sub)  I even saw someone wrote COCR is getting huge profit by selling it @ 111/- !

Three individuals  directly or indirectly are selling their holding to some other party.  That is all.
We are watching and expecting money coming to our pockets.

සාල වනේ නොවේ නුවර අලියෙක් හිටියා
ඒ අලියට   ගව්වක් දිග හොඬයක්   තිබුනා
තායිලන්තෙ එහා කොනේ ඇතින්න ඉන්නේ
දාර හොඬේ කර ගහගෙන වඳුරෝ ඉන්නේ
අලි නැටුවා අපි තැලුනා වඳුරො කියයි ද ?
you can replace any word as  you like Razz
Can we put "honeymoon"  from your last post Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


Seems COCR gonna go up...........
Hope  වඳුරො Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing will hold on

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