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Sri Lanka Equity Forum » Stock Market Talk » CIFL WILL REACH XXXX /=ඔබට සතු‍ටුයි ද දැන්... ????

CIFL WILL REACH XXXX /=ඔබට සතු‍ටුයි ද දැන්... ????

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ruwan326

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First it was poor depositors in CIFL
Now share holders in CIFL............. Sleep Sleep Sleep Sleep Sleep Sleep Sleep Sleep Sleep

Neluka Karannagoda


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Is that the end of CIFL i saw some one bought  more than 3.5 million shares at the price of 1.50. How much he lost ?
1.50 *3.5 Mn = 5.25 Mn.

ruwan326

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@Neluka Karannagoda wrote:Is that the end of CIFL i saw some one bought  more than 3.5 million shares at the price of 1.50. How much he lost ?
1.50 *3.5 Mn = 5.25 Mn.
You can not say it is a lost.............
Now he have to wait till the court take a decision.........
If some one will  buy and run CIFL again soon he is not lost........... If not you need to wait soooooooooo long Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad



Last edited by ruwan326 on Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:10 am; edited 1 time in total

troy

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So its the end of the road for cifl... phew what i ride!!!! Thanks cifl for lessons learned and profits made.
Anybody who made losses, can take it as a lesson learned for your future in equities.
I was planning to buy again below .50 if got a chance. Thanks goes for cse also for not halting trading overnight, which allowed me to dump my stuff at 1.50. This confirmed me the importance of reading daily ft while im in toilet!!!! ( where i got the news!)

TARGET


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@troy wrote:So its the end of the road for cifl... phew what i ride!!!! Thanks cifl for lessons learned and profits made.
Anybody who made losses, can take it as a lesson learned for your future in equities.
I was planning to buy again below .50 if got a chance. Thanks goes for cse also for not halting trading overnight, which allowed me to dump my stuff at 1.50. This confirmed me the importance of reading daily ft while im in toilet!!!! ( where i got the news!)
as a human i think you also feel for the buyer.

troy

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@TARGET wrote:
@troy wrote:So its the end of the road for cifl... phew what i ride!!!! Thanks cifl for lessons learned and profits made.
Anybody who made losses, can take it as a lesson learned for your future in equities.
I was planning to buy again below .50 if got a chance. Thanks goes for cse also for not halting trading overnight, which allowed me to dump my stuff at 1.50. This confirmed me the importance of reading daily ft while im in toilet!!!! ( where i got the news!)
as a human i think you also feel for the buyer.

Yeap ofcourse, that should come under their lessons learned section as mentioned. Some lessons are quite expensive and should deal with affordability!

TARGET


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@troy wrote:
@TARGET wrote:
@troy wrote:So its the end of the road for cifl... phew what i ride!!!! Thanks cifl for lessons learned and profits made.
Anybody who made losses, can take it as a lesson learned for your future in equities.
I was planning to buy again below .50 if got a chance. Thanks goes for cse also for not halting trading overnight, which allowed me to dump my stuff at 1.50. This confirmed me the importance of reading daily ft while im in toilet!!!! ( where i got the news!)
as a human i think you also feel for the buyer.

Yeap ofcourse, that should come under their lessons learned section as mentioned. Some lessons are quite expensive and should deal with affordability!
yes troy. good lesson. when you play with fire, you should prepare for burns here and there.

worthiness


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Similar occurrence to shareholders of ESL...?

Teller

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How many times, we highlighted scenarios against CIFL

stockback


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@worthiness wrote:Similar occurrence to shareholders of ESL...?


I think ESL share holders will get something. net assets is 38 last quarter.

Chinwi

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@ruwan326 wrote:
@Neluka Karannagoda wrote:Is that the end of CIFL i saw some one bought  more than 3.5 million shares at the price of 1.50. How much he lost ?
1.50 *3.5 Mn = 5.25 Mn.

You can not say it is a lost.............
Now he have to wait till the court take a decision.........
If some one will  buy and run CIFL again soon he is not lost........... If not you need to wait soooooooooo long Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad

Are you mad  ?   CB said no one is willing to buy.

CIFL is a negative asset company.

How many times we wrote that if you buy a negative asset share you are also acquiring the liabilities proportionate to your holding ?

As per CB info they are going to liquidate it. Shareholder will not get anything because of its  negative value.



CIFL කියන්නේ රිණ වත්කම් සහිත සමාගමක්. අපි 1.50 ක් දෙන්නේ 2.50 ක් වත් රින වත්කම් හෙවත් ණය කට​.

ඇත්ත වශයෙන්ම නම් සමාගම ඈවර කිරිමෙදී  බාහිර පාර්ශ්වයන්ට ණයයි නම්  අප ණය කරුවන් වෙලා ඒ ණය අතින් ගෙවන්න වෙනව​. මොකද අපි තමයි සමාගමේ අයිති කරුවන්.

නමුත්  ලිමිටඩ් ලයබිලිටි නිසා අපි ගත්ත කොටස් ගණනට අනුපාතිකව පමණයි අපි ණය කරුවෙක් වෙන්නෙ.  

ඉස්සර රු 10  මූර්ථ අගය par value තියෙන කාලෙ කොටසක ට අපේ උපරිම ලයබිලිටි එක රු 10 යි.
ඒ කියන්නේ ඈවර කිරීමේ දී බාහිර පාර්ශ්වයන්ට   ණය වෙලා නම්  කොටස් හිමියෙක්ට  අහිමි වෙන​   උපරිම මුදල කොටසකට රු 10 යි.

2007 නව පනත යටතේ දැන් මූර්ත අගයක් නැති නිසා මෙය කරන්නෙ කොහොමද කියල මා දන්නෙ නෑ.    



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TARGET


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Chinwi dan meken loss wela inna ahinsakayanta e loss ekata amatharawa depositorslatath gewanna wenawada?

Chinwi

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pothe hatiyata api share ekak gaththoth ehi vathkam / barakam dekama apita enava.

theory eka ehema unaata Central Bank eka genena visandumedi kuda koTas himiyan wa thava amaruve danne na.

TARGET


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@Chinwi wrote:pothe hatiyata api share ekak gaththoth ehi vathkam / barakam  dekama apita enava.

 theory eka  ehema unaata Central Bank eka genena visandumedi kuda koTas himiyan wa thava amaruve danne na.
Ok Chinwi. Thanks

Chinwi

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@worthiness wrote:Similar occurrence to shareholders of ESL...?


ESL වත්කම් රින අගයක් අරන් නැති බව යි දැනට කියන්නේ.
නමුත් පොතේ පෙන්වන ගාන ටම (37/-) නැති වෙන්න පුලුවන්.  
එහි වෙලා තියෙන්නෙ CIFL වලට වඩා වෙනස් දෙයක්.

ESL භාන්ඩාගාර බිල්පත් සඳහා ප්‍රයිමරි ඩීලර්ස් ලා.
Treasury bills/bonds අපට කෙලින්ම ගන්න බැ. ලංකා බැංකුව​, ෆස්ට් කැපිටල්, හොරපචවල් ට්‍රෙශරිස් වගේ ප්‍රයිමරි ඩීලර්ස් ලා හරහා තමයි ගන්න පුලුවන්.
ESL වල ගරු මහත්වරු මහජනතාව TB ගන්න දෙන සල්ලි TB ගත්ත කියල පෙන්වලා ඒව ගන්නෙ නැතුව වෙන හොරගුහා වල දාල කියල තමයි ඔය තහනම් කරල තියෙන්නෙ.  
ඒ අනුව ගිනුම් වර්තා වල ඇසෙස්ට් ලෙස පෙන්වන මුදල්  යම් ප්‍රමානයක් හෝ ඇත්තටම නැති වෙන්නත් පුලුවන්. එසේ නොවේවායි පතමු.
කොහොම උනත් කොටස් ගත්ත මුදලම නම් ලැබෙන එකක් නෑ කියා හිත හදා ගන්න වෙනව​. පොතේ පෙන්වන උපරිම වත්කමත් 37 යි නේ.


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