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1 PCHH @ 0.90 on Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:10 am

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If you can buy @ 0.90 cents , chance Very Happy

2 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:24 am

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so what is the chance there can be?
do you have any news and reliable source???

plz share if you have any news about this share,, so we can trade..

3 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:36 am

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@megadeal wrote:so what is the chance there can be?
do you have any news and reliable source???

plz share if you have any news about this share,, so we can trade..
There's Right issue 1 for 1 @ 1.50 , Right issue approved or not @ EGM, prices should go up, If we can buy @ 0.90 cents per share in market, who will get the rights @ 1.50, *Net assets over 1.50         *EGM Announcement on the way *there's a collecting hide buying @ 0.90

4 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:01 am

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if i buy a share at 0.90 cent  is it value to have a right issue at 1.50 ?

5 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:05 am

Neluka Karannagoda


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Then what abut the AINV.N it has the right issue price of Rs 1.00 now collection is going on at the value of Rs. 0.60.

6 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:11 am

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same theory also there? when u can buy both shares at lower price why do u have to wait for a right issue?

ex: when u can pchh @ 0.90 cents why do u have to wait to buy right issue at 1.50 ?

simple explanation ???

7 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:17 am

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when you touch dirty shares you will get dirt all over with no idea to how to make it clean...

so is PCHH also a dirty share? or a crap as most of people here say? plz share your views...

8 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:21 am

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@megadeal wrote:same theory also there? when u can buy both shares at lower price why do u have to wait for a right issue?

ex: when u can pchh @ 0.90 cents why do u have to wait to buy right issue at 1.50 ?

simple explanation ???
Don't wait to buy Rights @ 1.50. I mean when the closing date of EGM this share price will move towards 1.50 Naturally or Artificially, Then if you have 0.90 cents share you can sell 1.20 / 1.30

9 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:43 am

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ok,, will see

10 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:01 pm

Neluka Karannagoda


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Do anyone have any idea of the date of right issue for PCHH.N and AINV.N why is take long time to announce it ?

11 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Fri Jul 14, 2017 7:25 pm

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As a going concern PCHH is a good business
The share is worth more than 1.5
I hope a proper investor will buy this and run it well
The only problem is AINV and the crooks who run it
at the moment

12 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:56 pm

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Don't get into TRAP with any share under Adam group . There history is not good . Cheating masters . They don't have any way that's the reasons for these right issues. But Right issues prices are not worthy at all that's the reason share prices are below to subscription of right prices. Please don't assume ordinary shares prices adjustment near to right or over right prices.
In case if they take artificially means that's part of internal buying which can be interpreted as manipulation.
Group inside directors knows the scenario that's why huge selling is going on. Remember what ever they involved with shares now are in trouble. As example OGL,PCP..etc. those shares were traded in very high prices but see what happened at the moment. So scenario is crystal clear that they absorb retailers money gradually. So don't touch these shares even day traiding or speculation purposes.
GL

13 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:01 pm

nirowat


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I made a thread to discuss this earlier

The crooks should not be able to off load their holdings without us knowing, they should declare this within five days
BUT the sad story is it is allowed by the crooked SEC as the declaration come months after with no consequences

14 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:09 am

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@Teller wrote:Don't get into TRAP with any share under Adam group . There history is not good . Cheating masters . They don't have any way that's the reasons for these right issues.  But Right issues prices are not worthy at all that's the reason share prices are below to subscription of right prices. Please don't assume ordinary shares prices adjustment near to right or over right prices.
In case if they take artificially means that's part of internal buying which can be interpreted as manipulation.
Group inside directors knows the scenario that's why huge selling is going on. Remember what ever they involved with shares now are in trouble. As example OGL,PCP..etc. those shares were traded in very high prices but see what happened at the moment. So scenario is crystal clear that they absorb retailers money gradually. So don't touch these shares even day traiding or speculation purposes.
GL
if not worthy even @ 0.80/-, y they gave mandatory offer @2.5/- in 2014?
 
I think AINV failed to buy back PCHH IN 2014.recently AINV   got management control. so if they wish to get maximum % of shares control, then decided to go for a rights, then they can  invest fully rights of PCHH @1.5/- then easy to get 80% shares of PCHH.
so purposefully push down the market price, which is help  them to subscribe all rights by AINV.
 anyway its my thoughts only

15 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:24 pm

Chinwi

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You may be correct. Iam holding. Want to collect more.

16 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:46 pm

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AINV is not in a healthy position to pump extra cash for this kind of activity. So better not to touch to avoid burn your fingers.

17 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:58 pm

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ANOTHER DEAD ROPE... Mad Mad Mad Mad

18 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:14 am

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Basketball Basketball

19 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:01 am

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@dow wrote:Basketball Basketball
sunny

ruwan326

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PCHH lovers
ඔබට සතුටුයිද දැන් Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked ?????????

21 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:50 am

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@ruwan326 wrote:PCHH lovers
ඔබට සතුටුයිද දැන් Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked ?????????
Why not, Defa..
Another personal desire of Teller

22 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:52 am

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teller very sad. Sad
one key point is, there are no big seller at these level.
only some traders put sell order small qty.
so, easy to take off

23 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:57 am

Neluka Karannagoda


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PCHH.N is start moving as we expected. Why still AINV.N did not start its movement ? Feel it is struggling to come up from the Rs. 0.60.

24 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:12 pm

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@Neluka Karannagoda wrote:PCHH.N is start moving as we expected. Why still AINV.N did not start its movement ? Feel it is struggling to come up from the Rs. 0.60.
If PCHH touch 1.30 , Ainv will automatically Run

25 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:27 pm

Neluka Karannagoda


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Dear sharemarket 

What will be ur expected price of AINV.N ?

26 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:35 pm

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one of the trading expert told me, it'll  reach 2+ after the rights

27 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:44 pm

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@dow wrote:one of the trading expert told me, it'll  reach 2+ after the rights
When is the Rights?????? That's the question Shocked

28 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:51 pm

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@ruwan326 wrote:
@dow wrote:one of the trading expert told me, it'll  reach 2+ after the rights
When is the Rights?????? That's the question Shocked
however when the EGM announcement comes , close the that dates prices should near at least Rights issue prices

29 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:56 pm

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It could be a long wait.
Seems there is internal trading only.

30 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:30 pm

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These called "Manipulation" . But smart people can unload shares to directors...hahhhaaha.
I'm in the market more than 16 years so I have learned several lessons. PCHH financials ara having some doubts ,you can see if you see closely.

31 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:20 pm

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@Teller wrote:These called "Manipulation" . But smart people can  unload  shares to directors...hahhhaaha.
I'm in the market more than 16 years so I have learned several lessons. PCHH financials ara having some doubts ,you can see  if you see closely. Very Happy Very Happy

32 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:14 pm

Neluka Karannagoda


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@dow wrote:one of the trading expert told me, it'll  reach 2+ after the rights

Normally share price get reduced after a right issue due to the excess supply of the share. Then what is the reason it will go up to the Rs. 2.00 after the right issue ?
I can not understand the logic behind your argument.

33 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:49 pm

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People say different things but we must consider belw:

Nov 2014 AINV gave mandatory offer to acquire all the shares at 2.5LKR
In 2014 share was trading as high as 3.9 LKR
Since the change of business model they are improving their financials.

Sounds good to me.

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34 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:38 pm

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I also in this bus @1 cost.  Laughing Laughing Laughing

Positives
Net asset value 3.15 and running/showing profit.
activated carbon sales increase
Korean company joint venture started last year

Negative
Director Gulem Husein selling

I took risk,Yeilding 20% profit so far. Razz Razz Razz

35 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:39 pm

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@Teller wrote:These called "Manipulation" . But smart people can  unload  shares to directors...hahhhaaha.
I'm in the market more than 16 years so I have learned several lessons. PCHH financials ara having some doubts ,you can see  if you see closely.
hi teller..
I took my position @0.80/-
what should I do now?? tell me your opinion.

36 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:21 pm

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Actually these kind of companies are very difficult to analyse. If we consider technical , it will never give you a correct picture. If you consider fundamentals , there are lot of reasons to buy and not to buy,too.
For me, my code is very simple.. I always consider the value or potential before buying it . I always think about the management too.
Actually AINV did a wrong decision to acquire PCHH at that time. They should go for known businesses only not touch businesses. See the current scenario , they touched several businesses but couldn't succeed . That's the reason Mr.Gulem Husein has angry with the directors. Remember he sold his shares in sevaral times at sevaral costs. Finally For me this a red Zone ....

37 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:44 am

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thx teller.

38 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:25 am

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@Teller wrote:Actually these kind of companies are very difficult to analyse. If we consider technical , it will never give you a correct picture.  If you consider fundamentals , there are lot of reasons to buy and not to buy,too.
For me, my code is very simple.. I always consider the value  or potential before buying it .  I always think about the management too.
Actually AINV did a wrong decision to acquire PCHH at that time. They should go for known businesses only not touch businesses. See the current scenario , they touched several businesses but couldn't succeed . That's the reason Mr.Gulem Husein has angry with the directors.  Remember he sold his shares in sevaral times at  sevaral costs. Finally  For me this a red Zone ....
Agree with Teller of AINV - I also think Director selling,we don't know remaining selling quantity. If selling over that also will touch 0.80,  But PCHH - I told members to buy @ 0.90 & you can sold 1.30

39 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:40 am

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me sidda wena dewal dih abalapuwaha mata nam penne..
AINV saha PCHH dekema right issue eka enna ennama kittu wenawa wage... ita kalin kattiya gahana game okkoma gahanna balanne...

i smell very badly about that....

40 Re: PCHH @ 0.90 on Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:41 am

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huge collection during last few days..

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