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1 AINV.N Starts again ? on Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:09 pm

Neluka Karannagoda


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After 6 days silence we can see heavy selling of AINV.N shares at the price of Rs. 0.60. What is go behind the Adam group ? Any idea please welcome.

Thanks

2 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:55 pm

Teller

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As I said this will reach 0.30 cents. That's the news I got from inside. If you have any trust , OK buy some thing but control your emotions on loss. Shares will not die at once. It takes time . Can you remember sinking companies share price fluctuations? As example TWOD,PCP,CIFL, PCH...those didn't die at once.

3 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Tue Jul 18, 2017 8:21 pm

prabath


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
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Teller wrote:As I said this will reach 0.30 cents. That's the news I got from inside. If you have any trust , OK buy some thing but control your emotions on loss.  Shares will not die at once. It takes time . Can you remember sinking  companies share price fluctuations? As example TWOD,PCP,CIFL, PCH...those didn't die at once.
ha haa inside info.You are the one who did not expect the market to go up and vowed about interest rates further going up. Razz Razz

4 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:37 am

deli

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Dynamics of markets of the whole world has changed- It is no more the case where a central bank interest rate hike is going to be affecting the stock markets. Yields on treasury bonds worldwide including in SL is not that attractive.

5 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:04 am

prabath


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will this run?

6 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:19 pm

monash

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Do not Buy Crap shares in this market situation. There will be panic Selling.

Most probably market will be Red this Week with the price drops of bluechips  due to poor performance of some High Turnover BlueChip companies like LLUB

7 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:37 pm

Neluka Karannagoda


Manager - Equity Analytics
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More than 10 million shares sold today up to now at the price of Rs. 0.60. Although this is a crape this will fly soon. But have to be very careful before buy. Risk and Return that is the theory that all of us know from the Financial Management.

8 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:53 pm

reyaz

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Ainv is one of the favourites of the swindlers LOL

9 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:00 pm

DS Wijesinghe


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Neluka Karannagoda wrote:More than 10 million shares sold today up to now at the price of Rs. 0.60. Although this is a crape this will fly soon. But have to be very careful before buy. Risk and Return that is the theory that all of us know from the Financial Management.

Now you Sound lile and similar to Maharaja. He too is a heavy promoter of a another crap, Bartlett Finance

10 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:57 am

Neluka Karannagoda


Manager - Equity Analytics
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DS Wijesinghe wrote:
Neluka Karannagoda wrote:More than 10 million shares sold today up to now at the price of Rs. 0.60. Although this is a crape this will fly soon. But have to be very careful before buy. Risk and Return that is the theory that all of us know from the Financial Management.

Now you Sound lile and similar to Maharaja. He too is a heavy promoter of a another crap, Bartlett Finance
Dear Wijesingha

I m not a promoter. I am in the process of leaning the share market. I thought what happens that day and need others ideas because i have around 300000 shares in AINV.N and want to sell them soon. Do not misunderstand me. I dont like to be a promoter. 

I never earned profit here because i always deposits in scrap from the beginning. Only i earn profits 3 times 10000, 8000 and 6000 from PCP.N but now in my account i have a huge loss from PCP.N because i have some shares bought at 0.40. So home to earn profits in future but in a correct way. By putting others in to troubel and earn profit is not my way. Just want to clarify you.

Thanks

11 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:14 pm

Teller

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Don't worry about mistakes. I can remember when I do my initial investment on shares . That is Vanik incorporation . I invested Rs.5000/- and no company exists now. I didn't give up and continue to study . Here knowledge is the money . Even if you have money, you can't earn money always in stock markets. You should have experience and knowledge.
Good luck Neluka

12 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:40 pm

wisdom79

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IT is true Teller, I am responsible on only my own money not yours. When i sell, i do not know whom i am selling but I need a profit.

You buy, you sell.....never do what others say.....!

13 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:16 am

DS Wijesinghe


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Dear Neluka,

Yes I thought for sometime that you are a fresher but I started to doubt when sound investment advices given by some forum members continued to be sidelined and ignored by you, except for a mere Thank you. Nevertheless by and large I believe that you are a fresher and unfortunately had begun with a crappy group.

There are a few cardinal rules adopted by all time highly successful investors. Fortunately for freshers like you such information can be freely accessed today at a very early stage in Investing, where as I never had that luxury when I stepped in to the capital market in my early twenties. It was painful self learning indeed.

No.1 rule is, always invest with Certainty as Investing is not Gambling. Always invest in a company from an industry that you understand and like. You need to love the business of the company you invest in. For example If you don't like alcohol on principle, don't invest in companies operating in that industry.Also If you really don't understand what the business is all about, then you're gambling on them. Remember INVESTING IS NOT GAMBLING.

After you had figured out that you love the industry and the company, look at Return on Investment Capital (ROIC), sales, profitability, Earnings per share(EPS), Net Asset Value Per Share(NAVPS), annual dividend for a least 5 years.(preferably for 8 years). Compounded annual growth rates of these performance yardsticks need to be a minimum of 10% per annum during the 5 or 8 year period you are reviewing. The other measures are Net Cashflows and the Current Asset:Current Liability ratio. If the performances are not consistent with visible swings up and down, don't even bother to touch the company you are researching.

Before you invest in any business pay close attention to the people who run it. Do it even after you've invested in that business. Is the CEO a honest and a great leader? He/she HAS to be Shareholder driven and one who will have great ambition to take the company to greater heights.

If the management team doesn't have talent or integrity, they'll run the business into the ground and you'll be in danger of losing your capital. Therefore please carefully research the CEO and his track record.

Read very carefully the CEOs letter to the shareholders in the Annual Reports and quarterly reports. A good CEO would always make an effort to explain in a way that everyone can easily understand. If you are confused as to what the CEO is trying to tell the shareholders, it could be that the management is intentionally misleading and the company might be in trouble.

Above are some of the tips I have learned from some of the all time highly successful investors who beat the market annually, whether it is BULL or BEAR.

Hope that you will manage to come out of the current situation, victorious!!!

14 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:53 pm

prabath


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
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Top ones AINV sold from PABC margin.It should end someday.lets wait

15 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:09 pm

Teller

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Who can sell at these levels, definitely with a huge loss. Who is crazy to buy scraps on margin? Who is approving margin ? Several brokers and margin providers are limitating credit for AINV

16 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:19 pm

prabath


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Teller wrote:Who can sell at these levels, definitely with a huge loss. Who is crazy to buy scraps on margin? Who is approving margin ?  Several brokers and  margin providers are limitating  credit for AINV
Its sold from a margin account and someone is absorbing it without price fall..60 is the bottom.that means .70 is also handy profit.Wait and see

17 Great one DS on Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:38 am

ruwan326

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DS Wijesinghe wrote:Dear Neluka,

Yes I thought for sometime that you are a fresher but I started to doubt when sound investment advices given by some forum members  continued to be sidelined and ignored by you, except for a mere Thank you. Nevertheless by and large I believe that you are a fresher and unfortunately had begun with a crappy group.

There are a few cardinal rules adopted by all time highly successful investors. Fortunately for freshers like you such information can be freely accessed today at a very early stage in Investing, where as I never had that luxury when I stepped in to the capital market in my early twenties. It was painful self learning indeed.

No.1 rule is, always invest with Certainty as Investing is not Gambling. Always invest in a company from an industry that you understand and like. You need to love the business of the company you invest in. For example If you don't like alcohol on principle, don't invest in companies operating in that industry.Also If you really don't understand what the business is all about, then you're gambling on them. Remember INVESTING IS NOT GAMBLING.

After you had figured out that you love the industry and the company, look at Return on Investment Capital (ROIC), sales, profitability, Earnings per share(EPS), Net Asset Value Per Share(NAVPS), annual dividend for a least 5 years.(preferably for 8 years). Compounded annual growth rates of these performance yardsticks need to be a minimum of 10% per annum during the 5 or 8 year period you are reviewing. The other measures are Net Cashflows and the Current Asset:Current Liability ratio. If the performances are not consistent with visible swings up and down, don't even bother to touch the company you are researching.

Before you invest in any business pay close attention to the people who run it. Do it even after you've invested in that business. Is the  CEO a honest and a great leader? He/she HAS to be Shareholder driven and one who will have great ambition to take the company to greater heights.

If the management team doesn't have talent or integrity, they'll run the business into the ground and you'll be in danger of losing your capital. Therefore please carefully research the CEO and his track record.

Read very carefully the CEOs letter to the shareholders in the Annual Reports and quarterly reports. A good CEO would always make an effort to explain in a way that everyone can easily understand. If you are confused as to what the CEO is trying to tell the shareholders, it could be that the management is intentionally misleading and the company might be in trouble.

Above are some of the tips I have learned from some of the all time highly successful investors who beat the market annually, whether it is BULL or BEAR.

Hope that you will manage to come out of the current situation, victorious!!!
The best advice for all the new comers and even experts.......... Very Happy
I really like the part about CEO.
Thank you DS

18 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:32 am

Neluka Karannagoda


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Dear Dr.Wijesingha

Thank you very much for your advice. I am investing by knowing all the above things but if we consider all of the above suggested cafeterias, there is no single share to buy below Rs. 2.00. I do not have huge money to invest here therefore with the money i have no option other than to go for scrape and earn a profit. I Have a Degree in Accounting Special with first class (USJP) and Completed ICASL Final  and CMA Stage 3, i have a nice background in accounting. But i feel those knowledge not work here in CSE with limited money. If i have lot to invest then my accounting knowledge will be useful. With little money only i can do is invest in scarps and wait for a profit.

Any how ur golden rules are really true.

Thanks again

19 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:57 am

DS Wijesinghe


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Thanks Ruwan. Appreciate your comments

20 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Mon Jul 24, 2017 11:38 am

DS Wijesinghe


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Dear Neluka, 

These are not what I have discovered. These are some of the golden rules applied by some of the all time highly successful investors in the world like Warren Buffet, Charlie Munger and others. They stubbornly stick to these rules plus many more which I avoided in my last post as it would run to many more pages. If any of those rules fail, Buffet and Munger simply don't touch those stocks. Remember there are only a limited number of of such investors in the world. Majority do not. That's why they have become so rich by investing, when the majority are not successful as they are.


Just like you and me they too started with small money.

I think there is a fundamental error in the way you approach an investment You look at the price of a share and not at the value of a stock. For example a share valued cents 20 could be trading at a price of a 1/-.   At the same time there could be a stock valued at 400/- and trading at a price of 280/-. If you've got Rs. 100,000/- the most prudent will be to buy the stock trading at 280/- and not the one trading at 1/-. 

I wish you successful investing!!!

21 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:10 pm

ruwan326

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DS Wijesinghe wrote:Thanks Ruwan. Appreciate your comments
DS,
If you are not joined below forum please join.
This is a great place to learn and earn.
http://Deleted/index.php

22 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:17 pm

DS Wijesinghe


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ruwan326 wrote:
DS Wijesinghe wrote:Thanks Ruwan. Appreciate your comments
DS,
If you are not joined below forum please join.
This is a great place to learn and earn.
http://Deleted/index.php

Thanks, I will do so

23 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:00 pm

Neluka Karannagoda


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Dear Dr Wijesinghe 

Thank you so much for helping me to be successful in the share market, There are few in here support to a other person genuinely. I feel that. Thank you so much again. After sell all these scraps i will do as u said. i invest 300000 Rs here. So i can be succeed. Thanks again.

24 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:31 pm

bakapandithaya

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Neluka Karannagoda wrote:Dear Dr Wijesinghe 

Thank you so much for helping me to be successful in the share market, There are few in here support to a other person genuinely. I feel that. Thank you so much again. After sell all these scraps i will do as u said. i invest 300000 Rs here. So i can be succeed. Thanks again.


Dear Neluka,

Don't think that you have only Rs 300,000 Sad

Just think I have Rs 300,000 Shocked

Study the pattern of the trading, behavior of the market. Easily you can win

I had only Rs 400,000 in February 2017 & as of today my portfolio balance is Rs 2Mn.

Don't listen to anyone. Think before you buy

25 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:59 am

reyaz

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Neluka Karannagoda wrote:
DS Wijesinghe wrote:
Neluka Karannagoda wrote:More than 10 million shares sold today up to now at the price of Rs. 0.60. Although this is a crape this will fly soon. But have to be very careful before buy. Risk and Return that is the theory that all of us know from the Financial Management.

Now you Sound lile and similar to Maharaja. He too is a heavy promoter of a another crap, Bartlett Finance
Dear Wijesingha

I m not a promoter. I am in the process of leaning the share market. I thought what happens that day and need others ideas because i have around 300000 shares in AINV.N and want to sell them soon. Do not misunderstand me. I dont like to be a promoter. 

I never earned profit here because i always deposits in scrap from the beginning. Only i earn profits 3 times 10000, 8000 and 6000 from PCP.N but now in my account i have a huge loss from PCP.N because i have some shares bought at 0.40. So home to earn profits in future but in a correct way. By putting others in to troubel and earn profit is not my way. Just want to clarify you.

Thanks
Neluka
I pity you, but that's how things work. And not everything in this forum is taken seriously. If I for instance followed somebody who promoted dial I will be in trouble today because lookat it! I would have been stuck. So dont follow all promoters. Just make a note and do your own research then take decision!

26 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:12 am

reyaz

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Teller wrote:As I said this will reach 0.30 cents. That's the news I got from inside. If you have any trust , OK buy some thing but control your emotions on loss.  Shares will not die at once. It takes time . Can you remember sinking  companies share price fluctuations? As example TWOD,PCP,CIFL, PCH...those didn't die at once.


As you can see the scenario is different
Refer to mrket depth today!

27 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:15 pm

Neluka Karannagoda


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Dear Reyaz

What do u think about this share price will it go up or down ?

I just need ur idea.

Thanks

28 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:00 pm

Teller

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Hi Neluka, now it's confirmed AINV death.. it's look like no one will subscribe their rights.

29 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:43 pm

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If CIFL GOES UP, WHY TO WORRY ON AINV.

You have to wait until the correct time comes. No need to worry buy, if you buy AINV, hold on it.

Within a moment share price will move up soon, then you can sell off. Now hold on it.

It must move up above 1.00 to offer the right issue. With a right issue, share will not be dead.

when PCHH pass 1.30, AINV MUST MOVE UP.

TOMORROW, SEE WHAT HAPPENED, GREG, DPL, TAP

LIKE THAT AINV WILL MOVE UP, SLOW AND STEADY WINS THA RACE........

30 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:26 pm

wisdom79

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AINV IS DISCUSSING TO SETTLE THEIR MATTERS TO APPOINT NEW DIRECTORS. WITHIN A FEW DAYS, AINV WILL MOVE UP. SO BE POSITIVE. 
THIS IS NOT A PROMOTION....

31 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:42 pm

Teller

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More than 2 million has been disposed @50 cents, I Tod that companies never die at once

32 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:53 pm

wisdom79

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Yes, it is true. BUT we could see over 10 million buying last few days, and then we did not sell any share,but this time I believe some big one tries to steal some shares at low price, that is why he sold much to get the price down and also he needs to push pchh down, so we have to understand the trick they follow. 

when pchh went up at 1.30 some one bought 3.5 million without any reason but then share comes down, some has reason to tell that they bought the share at 1.30 and they need to collect it and push up.

So no need to worry here at the moment, why they divide share into two and gave a right issue, then they can easily push the share up, but now they are trying to do another trick.

So now you can collect and hold and then sell at high price. I believe Ainv will not far down that 40 cents but soon it will reach 1 or 1.20 when pchh reaches at 1.70.

AINV NO NEED TO DELIS THERE SHARES AND THEY WILL TRY TO TAKE IT UP. 
THIS IS NOT A PROMOTION BUT YOU CAN RIFER THE REPORT.

YOU CAN COME TO A CONCLUTION NOW.

33 Same like KZOO??????????????? on Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:17 am

ruwan326

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wisdom79 wrote:Yes, it is true. BUT we could see over 10 million buying last few days, and then we did not sell any share,but this time I believe some big one tries to steal some shares at low price, that is why he sold much to get the price down and also he needs to push pchh down, so we have to understand the trick they follow. 

when pchh went up at 1.30 some one bought 3.5 million without any reason but then share comes down, some has reason to tell that they bought the share at 1.30 and they need to collect it and push up.

So no need to worry here at the moment, why they divide share into two and gave a right issue, then they can easily push the share up, but now they are trying to do another trick.

So now you can collect and hold and then sell at high price. I believe Ainv will not far down that 40 cents but soon it will reach 1 or 1.20 when pchh reaches at 1.70.

AINV NO NEED TO DELIS THERE SHARES AND THEY WILL TRY TO TAKE IT UP. 
THIS IS NOT A PROMOTION BUT YOU CAN RIFER THE REPORT.

YOU CAN COME TO A CONCLUTION NOW.
Same prediction like KZOO Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad
Are you a human?????????????

34 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:06 am

indunil329


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what is going on ? it is burning hard earn money by the investors

35 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:37 am

reyaz

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Neluka Karannagoda wrote:Dear Reyaz

What do u think about this share price will it go up or down ?

I just need ur idea.

Thanks

Hard to say, it really depends on what sabir is upto. If there are so called engineers in the board then there will be a problem but if they are genuine still they have to come up with bright ideas to turn the company around

36 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:42 am

reyaz

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wisdom79 wrote:If CIFL GOES UP, WHY TO WORRY ON AINV.

You have to wait until the correct time comes. No need to worry buy, if you buy AINV, hold on it.

Within a moment share price will move up soon, then you can sell off. Now hold on it.

It must move up above 1.00 to offer the right issue. With a right issue, share will not be dead.

when PCHH pass 1.30, AINV MUST MOVE UP.

TOMORROW, SEE WHAT HAPPENED, GREG, DPL, TAP

LIKE THAT AINV WILL MOVE UP, SLOW AND STEADY WINS THA RACE........

Manipulators are everywhere, I agree.
But AINV has a lot of subsidiaries. Really hope they reorganize the group or even give the current structure a boost ( a good set of employees and the correct amount of funding).

37 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:41 am

Neluka Karannagoda


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Your correct reyas but i feel someone purposely try to bring the price down. Companies worst than this are selling there shares at high price. 
Eg: CIFL.N

38 Re: AINV.N Starts again ? on Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:32 pm

Teller

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What happened now. AINV massively traded 40 cents and PCHH dropped to 80 levels. Poor retailers lost again

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