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1 What is the best strategy now? on Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:09 pm

dineshfernando


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Dear friends,

First of all I must thank to CSE a lot because I made over 200% gain over the last 2 years. I have been trading over 6 years in total and seen many downs and ups of the market. 95% of my portfolio is of fundamental shares and undervalued shares.

At this present condition, I have been losing almost Rs. 200,000/= everyday. I am planning to quit temporarily and come back with 50% of portfolio when things are ok. My portfolio value is 8 digit figure and if I dispose it and put it in a fixed deposit I will earn more than my present salary.

My options are:
1) Dispose entire portfolio and deposit it in fixed deposit account
2) Dispose 50% and reinvest it in plantations (coconut)
3) Quit the job and spend more time on trading
4) Buy an appartment and rent
5) Do nothing and wait till the market recover

Also, I would like to know how many of you are doing trading as a job (full-time). I have more than 25 years to retire but I feel if I spend more time in the market I always can make more gains and reduce loses. I'm also fed up with my present job.

Friends, please advice me.

2 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:32 pm

DKR

DKR
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
What is ur current job..?
Dnt put tat money on FD ....nw intrest is SHIT in all banks..
If u can buy land spend time on there doing something new....
Very Happy

3 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:37 pm

opfdo

opfdo
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
buy good foundamentals & see, because this situation not for a long period. SEC will change the regulations, they r pressurised now

4 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:20 pm

jaya


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
wait till market recover & trasfer to sound stocks

5 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:45 pm

Tiger

Tiger
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
If I were you I would dispose about 25-50% of PF even with some losses, after carefully selecting high P/E forwards. Keep this money in liquid form and keep until this down trend ends. I expect this to be end by beginning of Q4, until then those with high p/e's will seek its bottom (i.e. until Q3 results, those companies which cannot support these high p/e with actual results will sink).

Again enter the market if you wish. I believe 2012 to be exciting year.

This is my personal view please obtain professional advice before making your investment decisions.

6 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:11 am

ShareShares


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
osmand wrote:buy good foundamentals & see, because this situation not for a long period. SEC will change the regulations, they r pressurised now

This may come to an end cannot go on for ever.

7 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:09 am

Soundchips


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@jaya wrote:wait till market recover & trasfer to sound stocks

wait for how long ? ..days or weeks?

8 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:16 am

Soundchips


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Slightly green, I think few days to wait.

9 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:13 pm

TortoizePlus

TortoizePlus
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
I believe this is due to some credit clearance, political unrest and flow of IPOs and right issues. People don't have money to invest (with credit clearance and sequence of IPOs). I think the red will continue till end of this month but cannot guarantee a bull run after that. Overall, 2011 will be a flat year in CSE.

10 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Thu Jun 23, 2011 4:00 pm

manula


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@dineshfernando wrote:Dear friends,

First of all I must thank to CSE a lot because I made over 200% gain over the last 2 years. I have been trading over 6 years in total and seen many downs and ups of the market. 95% of my portfolio is of fundamental shares and undervalued shares.

At this present condition, I have been losing almost Rs. 200,000/= everyday. I am planning to quit temporarily and come back with 50% of portfolio when things are ok. My portfolio value is 8 digit figure and if I dispose it and put it in a fixed deposit I will earn more than my present salary.

My options are:
1) Dispose entire portfolio and deposit it in fixed deposit account
2) Dispose 50% and reinvest it in plantations (coconut)
3) Quit the job and spend more time on trading
4) Buy an appartment and rent
5) Do nothing and wait till the market recover

Also, I would like to know how many of you are doing trading as a job (full-time). I have more than 25 years to retire but I feel if I spend more time in the market I always can make more gains and reduce loses. I'm also fed up with my present job.

Friends, please advice me.

I like to mention that quit from the job sound not good to me . At least you will get some income end of the each month. Hope you have a good job with decent salary. We cannot relay every time from the market. Actually i am doing the share market in part time and i invest some from my savings on the market and i have given two apartments on rent in colombo and now think about cultivation and searching for a good coconut land and having some FD also for emergency. What i want to say is don't relay on one field and better to focus in all side that u can do. Think about fundamental shares and their scope is on many fields and same way you have to use your savings wisely. Don't relay on one side and for example now see what happening on the market. Same way if you have more than 25 years to retire loosing the job will be not good thing.Take perfect decisions other wise you have to suffer for the life time. Very Happy

11 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:48 pm

nkalansu


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
@dineshfernando wrote:Dear friends,

First of all I must thank to CSE a lot because I made over 200% gain over the last 2 years. I have been trading over 6 years in total and seen many downs and ups of the market. 95% of my portfolio is of fundamental shares and undervalued shares.

At this present condition, I have been losing almost Rs. 200,000/= everyday. I am planning to quit temporarily and come back with 50% of portfolio when things are ok. My portfolio value is 8 digit figure and if I dispose it and put it in a fixed deposit I will earn more than my present salary.

My options are:
1) Dispose entire portfolio and deposit it in fixed deposit account
2) Dispose 50% and reinvest it in plantations (coconut)
3) Quit the job and spend more time on trading
4) Buy an appartment and rent
5) Do nothing and wait till the market recover

Also, I would like to know how many of you are doing trading as a job (full-time). I have more than 25 years to retire but I feel if I spend more time in the market I always can make more gains and reduce loses. I'm also fed up with my present job.


Friends, please advice me.


My advice is..... don't sell when market is coming down. Sell when market is going up. Don't follow the crowd.

Wait till the market recover and when all other people are buying you sell your portfolio and gain as mush as possible. After that you can select one of the options you have listed above.

If i were you i would dispose 50% and invest in an income generating asset. (investment property...rental income etc.). I am also working in a state bank and derive a 5 figure salary. Even though i am happy with my salary i am fed up with my job....Thinking about doing full time trading and having some investment properties that generate monthly cash flow.



Last edited by nkalansu on Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:54 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Typed in the wrong place)

12 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:40 pm

dineshfernando


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Thank you very much friends for your advices

13 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:32 am

enslive

enslive
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
In my opinion ,

best strategy is to keep holding, Don't be panic selling @ low , pump additional money to buy fundamentally strong shares at low level

Finally,, plane for the worse... hope for the best Wink

14 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:35 am

Soundchips


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
For the first time in months market is green and ... remains green..

15 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:11 pm

RANGANA PERERA


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
Srilankan stock market funeral ceremony organized by SEC Sad Sad

16 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:14 pm

Aamiable


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
look like worse part is over.

Very Happy Smile Very Happy

17 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:16 pm

Gaja


Associate Director - Equity Analytics
Associate Director - Equity Analytics
i am doing nothing, other than watching the market

18 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:26 pm

Aamiable


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Many expected an upward trend after 12 noon.

19 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:49 pm

Aamiable


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Best strategy is not to start fighting among members,.. just allow stock market to see an overall recovery.... Ninety nine percent of the shares were down... Let all stocks recover up to previous levels.... Keep all kinds of mew investments interested and attracted to CSE.

20 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:17 pm

Aamiable


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
What ever the forms of investments have to come and rescue CSE,,,, let any form of funds come to the market now and help every body recover fast...

Very Happy Smile Very Happy

21 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:51 pm

uditha9


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
sell some shares&buy some gold.i dont advice you to quit the job.

22 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:41 pm

Aamiable


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@enslive wrote:In my opinion ,

best strategy is to keep holding, Don't be panic selling @ low , pump additional money to buy fundamentally strong shares at low level

Finally,, plane for the worse... hope for the best Wink


Hope for the best !

23 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:14 pm

ssb

ssb
Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
fingers crossed and trust on god i lost 20% of my portfolio
Sad among

24 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:49 pm

sapumal


Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
sleep few months

25 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:57 pm

rijayasooriya

rijayasooriya
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Forget the market(not for ever) and try to find a satisfactory job

26 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:27 am

ShareShares


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Now declining phase is almost over there was a problem of lack of funds, that phase seem to be over. Now onwards I keep an eye on a different set of shares where there are enough funds.

In the next half of the year, I look for stocks where there is institutional baying, foreign partipation is active technically proven to be sound .

From this base level real and sustainable growth is expected.

27 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:24 am

Jonathon

Jonathon
Stock Analytic
Stock Analytic
look for shares which are fundamentally strong and undervalued with this strategy you will not go wrong

28 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:31 pm

maalinda


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
If you have been in the market 6 years im sure you have seen worst before. So why panic ? If i were you what i ll do in this situation DO NOTHING AND WAIT TILL IT RECOVER.

same time buy small quantities at low prices and sell with small profit if can to book some profit That is what im doing from last 2 months.

QUIT JOB is stupidest thing to now. atleast you have an income cuz of that.

Good luck. We all have red PF... wait this is not forever... it will recover sooner or later.

29 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:26 am

LateTackle

LateTackle
Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
Protect your gains sell and buy when market drops another 500 or 600 points, probably will happen between now and September

30 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:25 pm

Investor99


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
First thing we got to understand is that this is not a market crash but an induced market correction. In my opinion this is a good time to buy shares if there is extra cash. There are a few fundamentally strong undervalued shares in certain growth industries in the market that would yield above average returns in the long term (2 to 3 years).

31 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:05 pm

Antonym

Antonym
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
@dineshfernando: You are in an enviable financial situation and can now afford to start engaging in 'the pursuit of happiness'. What else are we living for?
My advice would be:
1. If your portfolio consists of fundamental & undervalued shares, don't sell them all... but try to restrict your equity percentage to 100 minus your age.
2. Fixed Deposits and renting out an apartment are very good ideas that will assure you a fixed income while preserving the principal. (I don't know much about coconut plantations, though.)
3. If you are fed up with your present job, quit and spend more time on what you like doing, i.e. trading! But keep your professional skills up to date, keep the saw sharp; If you've read 'The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari', you'd understand what I'm trying to say...
All the Best! Smile

32 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:28 pm

Monster

Monster
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Antonym wrote:
1. If your portfolio consists of fundamental & undervalued shares, don't sell them all... but try to restrict your equity percentage to 100 minus your age.
@Antonym, can you elaborate more in detail? Why we should restrict our equity percentage based on our age?

33 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:45 pm

Antonym

Antonym
Vice President - Equity Analytics
Vice President - Equity Analytics
'100 minus your age' is an equity allocation rule of thumb (that I try to follow). The rationale is that equity shares, in general, give the best returns in the long term. However, good shares sometimes take many years to yield their full benefit - through capital appreciation and dividend yields.

At a younger age, more time is available; therefore a higher equity percentage is justified. This link explains it better...
http://www.boerse-frankfurt.de/EN/index.aspx?pageID=44&NewsID=298

34 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:17 pm

Tiger

Tiger
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Tiger wrote:If I were you I would dispose about 25-50% of PF even with some losses, after carefully selecting high P/E forwards. Keep this money in liquid form and keep until this down trend ends. I expect this to be end by beginning of Q4, until then those with high p/e's will seek its bottom (i.e. until Q3 results, those companies which cannot support these high p/e with actual results will sink).

Again enter the market if you wish. I believe 2012 to be exciting year.

This is my personal view please obtain professional advice before making your investment decisions.

35 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:27 pm

ShareShares


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Market turmoil is over, many expect a green smooth running stock market tomorrow onwards which would properly reflect corporate earnings. I personally prefer to enter CSE with few shares which are not dependent on credit. Hope to enter step by step little at a time with a diversified PF. Others may be having different ideas, I focus on medium term investments. Meanwhile I respect all kinds of different strategies. Each investor selects best strategy suitable for them according to his or her ability to invest and hold on to thier shares.

36 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:02 am

Kumar

Kumar
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Buying shares now is good for long term investment.

37 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:50 am

Soundchips


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
What is the Exit strategy

38 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:42 am

Kumar

Kumar
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Soundchips wrote:What is the Exit strategy
After making reasonable profit.
Fundamental shares will bounce back in their own pace.

39 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:30 pm

rijayasooriya

rijayasooriya
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
Senior Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Kumar wrote:
@Soundchips wrote:What is the Exit strategy
After making reasonable profit.
Very very intelligent Wink

40 Re: What is the best strategy now? on Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:44 pm

Tiger

Tiger
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
@Tiger wrote:
@Tiger wrote:If I were you I would dispose about 25-50% of PF even with some losses, after carefully selecting high P/E forwards. Keep this money in liquid form and keep until this down trend ends. I expect this to be end by beginning of Q4, until then those with high p/e's will seek its bottom (i.e. until Q3 results, those companies which cannot support these high p/e with actual results will sink).

Again enter the market if you wish. I believe 2012 to be exciting year.

This is my personal view please obtain professional advice before making your investment decisions.


I have nothing to say other than repeat what I said many times before. If you had correctly followed the market this year you would have been able to double your wealth in 2011; in terms of the number of shares you had in the same companies. Still I have one thing to say, you should be entering into oversold market and not wise verse.

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