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1TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase Empty TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase on Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:06 pm

K&M


Senior Equity Analytic
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foreign Fund bought more than 70 Million shares of touchwood.

Refer the below link

http://Deleted/mubasherFileServer/File.Exchange_English_Reports/deleted%20SWOT%20Report%20-05th%20Mar.pdf

TWOD has become quite a interesting and confusing topic in the recent past, many alleging there business model is fraudulent and its a ponzi scheme. Under all these allegation and difficulties who must have bought this large stake.

2TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase Empty Re: TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase on Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:15 pm

K&M


Senior Equity Analytic
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go to xxxxxxx and visit todays SWOT report




Last edited by npp on Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:14 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : names were censored for a reason)

3TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase Empty Re: TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase on Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:13 pm

Fresher


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Total foreign purchase today is Rs. 292mn
70mn TWOD shares will amount to almost Rs. 400mn

http://www.cse.lk/cmt/upload_cse_report_file/daily_report_672_05-03-2013.pdf

only 370,000 shares were traded.

4TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase Empty Re: TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase on Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:19 pm

Fresher


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5TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase Empty Re: TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase on Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:04 pm

K&M


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
Yes im talking about yesterdays report, im giving the info which i got from the daily SWOT report ,available on Du invest. Go and have check.

6TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase Empty Re: TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase on Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:06 pm

Fresher


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Moderator
I would appreciate if you can cross verify that with the official source - CSE

Earlier you said today's. Now you say yday's. I would like to point out that there was no transaction reported as per credible sources.

The site you mentioned is not a "source"

7TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase Empty Re: TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase on Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:15 pm

K&M


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
Dude, du invest is a widely accepted financial media firm. Link cannot be copy paste for some reason visit the web site. go and type on google lk . du invest . com and there you will find todays SWOT REPORT from information gathered yesterday below the main page

8TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase Empty Re: TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase on Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:52 pm

Fresher


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K&M wrote:Dude, du invest is a widely accepted financial media firm. Link cannot be copy paste for some reason visit the web site. go and type on google lk . du invest . com and there you will find todays SWOT REPORT from information gathered yesterday below the main page

Please go through the CSE daily report

9TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase Empty Re: TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase on Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:54 pm

K&M


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
npp wrote:
Earlier you said today's. Now you say yday's. I would like to point out that there was no transaction reported as per credible sources.

The site you mentioned is not a "source"

I dont know weather its a source or what, i generally refer this website to check foreign buying or selling and also to do some analysis, up until this moment it has been quite helpful to me. they basically report today's market summery tomorrow, thats there normal procedure.

I just wanted to spread this info with the investment community since this company is being alleged by many without any credible evidence on hand. i thought this might be helpful to certain people.

Take care

10TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase Empty Re: TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase on Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:56 pm

Fresher


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K&M wrote:
npp wrote:
Earlier you said today's. Now you say yday's. I would like to point out that there was no transaction reported as per credible sources.

The site you mentioned is not a "source"

I dont know weather its a source or what, i generally refer this website to check foreign buying or selling and also to do some analysis, up until this moment it has been quite helpful to me. they basically report today's market summery tomorrow, thats there normal procedure.

I just wanted to spread this info with the investment community since this company is being alleged by many without any credible evidence on hand. i thought this might be helpful to certain people.

Take care

Appreciate your intent. No hostility. But I am trying to point out that there might have been a mistake since CSE daily reports suggest no such transaction. Anyway, how can you say it's a foreign 'fund'?

11TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase Empty Re: TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase on Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:58 pm

knockknobbler


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
K &M is 100% correct. This news is there at the site he mentions. First time I also got to know that site. It seems very informative and nicely organized.

However If somebody doubts this information , there are grounds for that also.

I also had some doubts about this information since this type of transaction ,specially TWOD can't go unnoticed, because there are lot of TWOD enthusiasts in this Forum.

I checked CSE daily transactions, couldn't find such a big transaction. I thought it may be a crossing. Some times crossings are not reflected in CSE daily trading data.
I Didn't follow this story , since I have no interest in TWOD.

I really appreciate K &M 's effort in bringing this to the Forum , even though he can't vouch for accuracy. I have no doubt about his sincerity , in making a service to Forum members.

12TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase Empty Re: TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase on Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:05 am

K&M


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
Well when 70 millions shares were purchased obviously it has to be either a fund or private equity firm. This why at the end of the comment i said we must look in who bought these shares.

I f you have chek this DU invest you will find out that its an reliable web site. I dont know on what intention they have given false information

13TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase Empty Re: TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase on Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:07 am

Fresher


Moderator
Moderator
Please guys

70 mn shares is 66% of the total shares issued.

Further not even the Top 20 shareholders combined have that many shares.

Please don't take stories at face value. It is up to you to believe or not, but when you don't care to think a bit about it, don't post incorrect information.

Thanks

14TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase Empty Re: TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase on Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:19 am

K&M


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
@knockknobbler wrote:K &M is 100% correct. This news is there at the site he mentions. First time I also got to know that site. It seems very informative and nicely organized.

However If somebody doubts this information , there are grounds for that also.

I also had some doubts about this information since this type of transaction ,specially TWOD can't go unnoticed, because there are lot of TWOD enthusiasts in this Forum.

I checked CSE daily transactions, couldn't find such a big transaction. I thought it may be a crossing. Some times crossings are not reflected in CSE daily trading data.
I Didn't follow this story , since I have no interest in TWOD.

I really appreciate K &M 's effort in bringing this to the Forum , even though he can't vouch for accuracy. I have no doubt about his sincerity , in making a service to Forum members.

Appreciate it knockknobbler. There was no intention to either promote or misinterpret anyone. I just thought information could be useful to the forum.

and Npp,

its not my fault that DU invest produce wrong information and i also wanted find out who was this person or firm who bought this large stake (note my first comment) this information was posted to clarify these issues. its not fair to say what to post or what not to post. There were many posts which are 100% false posted without any valid evidence done with the intention of promoting there stocks.

15TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase Empty Re: TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase on Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:20 am

Fresher


Moderator
Moderator
K&M wrote:
@knockknobbler wrote:K &M is 100% correct. This news is there at the site he mentions. First time I also got to know that site. It seems very informative and nicely organized.

However If somebody doubts this information , there are grounds for that also.

I also had some doubts about this information since this type of transaction ,specially TWOD can't go unnoticed, because there are lot of TWOD enthusiasts in this Forum.

I checked CSE daily transactions, couldn't find such a big transaction. I thought it may be a crossing. Some times crossings are not reflected in CSE daily trading data.
I Didn't follow this story , since I have no interest in TWOD.

I really appreciate K &M 's effort in bringing this to the Forum , even though he can't vouch for accuracy. I have no doubt about his sincerity , in making a service to Forum members.



Appreciate it knockknobbler. There was no intention to either promote or misinterpret anyone. I just thought information could be useful to the forum.

and Npp,

its not my fault that DU invest produce wrong information and i also wanted find out who was this person or firm who bought this large stake (note my first comment) this information was posted to clarify these issues. its not fair to say what to post or what not to post. There were many posts which are 100% false posted without any valid evidence done with the intention of promoting there stocks.

K&M,

I'm not blaming you. But I'm asking you to read the sources that I have given. They are more credible.

16TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase Empty Re: TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase on Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:40 am

stockboy


Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
Senior Manager - Equity Analytics
capital trust hold millions of twod at a very high price try to push and sell dont trap on this

17TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase Empty Re: TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase on Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:38 am

knockknobbler


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
npp wrote:Please guys

70 mn shares is 66% of the total shares issued.
Further not even the Top 20 shareholders combined have that many shares.
Please don't take stories at face value. It is up to you to believe or not, but when you don't care to think a bit about it, don't post incorrect information.
Thanks

Thanks, for this information. ( 70 mn.... equals 66%)
If some party bought that much ,they have to do a mandatory offer , and that would have been big news, specially considering the present attention to TWOD. It appears this news is inaccurate. Credit to you for your inquiring mind.

However, as I have previously mentioned I vouch for the appearance of the information at that site (may be still there ). The site seems very much informative, organized and nicely presented. I was also inquisitive about the site and even I send a private message to K&M , inquiring any knowledge about the people behind that site.


Please don't take stories at face value. It is up to you to believe or not, but when you don't care to think a bit about it, don't post incorrect information.
- npp

you are correct here also. But you know, you don't think that much when there is info ,chart, table in a website , specially if the site is is familiar to you. Usually at the first instance you don't analyze the info. Even I didn't do that ,though I try to verify. The analysis happens when you discuss with someone, as happened here.

Thanks guys, for the good work, keep it up !.

I also have to agree, when K &M points out, there are lot of false information , very unrealistic opinions in this forum. The strange thing is most Posters, keep mum, when they are asked to clarify or elaborate.


18TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase Empty Re: TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase on Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:46 am

Fresher


Moderator
Moderator
@knockknobbler wrote:
I also have to agree, when K &M points out, there are lot of false information , very unrealistic opinions in this forum. The strange thing is most Posters, keep mum, when they are asked to clarify or elaborate.


agreed, but I have not blamed K&M for his actions. From the beginning all I asked was to read the official sources first. Besides, any other sites will pick up information from there.

About the posters you mentioned - with time, you get to know these people and they obviously do not have any credibility by now. Only the new joiners would be fooled, which the mods try to minimize as possible.
The difference is when someone sees a sourceless rumour one 'may' try to make a decision on it and fall into the trap. But when an incorrect information is given by a 'source' which many trust, then you can't blame him too much.

even CSE has had it's share of errors, but still it is the primary source for these kind of information

19TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase Empty Re: TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase on Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:19 am

knockknobbler


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
npp wrote:

even CSE has had it's share of errors, but still it is the primary source for these kind of information

Now, ...regarding this CSE information,

# details of days trade , company wise - is available aroun3.30 pm -link TRADE SUMMARY (after they do adjustments ,probably to closing price )
# I get this downloaded to a excel sheet and do some analysis. I observe CROSSINGS are not included here. for ex: on 5 March 2013 in TRADE SUMMARY- if you add Turnover, total is Rs 231,014,299/- where as turnover is stated as -Rs 602,759,104/- at the homepage. Even when you are online ( between 9.30 am -2.30 pm) you will observe this discrepancy. I presume the difference is CROSSINGS.
# you can't see details of crossings by this time. Only place I see details of CROSSINGS is CSE Daily (PDF ), which they finalize and post much later in the day, around 5.00 pm. (Don't know whether I am wrong here.)
# I get my Brokers daily report around 4.00pm, which give details of CROSSINGS, usually that's the data I rely on.

So......., this is how it happens, I mean, you have to rely on third party data rather than CSE because of the timing ,delays.


20TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase Empty Re: TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase on Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:41 am

rainmaker


Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Assistant Vice President - Equity Analytics
Does it really matter??? The only time a foreign fund changed a company in a meaningful/meaningless (you pick which one) way was GREG.....

21TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase Empty Re: TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase on Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:57 am

K&M


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
@rainmaker wrote:Does it really matter??? The only time a foreign fund changed a company in a meaningful/meaningless (you pick which one) way was GREG.....


Its up to the people to decide what matters & what not. this information was not provided to misguide investors it was posted with the intention of supporting them.

Our Stock market does not provide any valuable information compared to other markets to support the general public. they only update the basic data which anyway can be gained. Hence what small investors do they make there own assumption and publish it here and this what happened to TWOD people made various allegations on this company without any appropriate evidence. so after seen this data i thought this will help the community understand better.

Will see what will happen in the future..

22TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase Empty Re: TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase on Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:09 am

Redbulls

Redbulls
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
@ K & M
I couldn't find the above transaction on 05/03/2013 SWOT report.

23TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase Empty Re: TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase on Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:18 am

Redbulls

Redbulls
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Touchwood Foreign holding according to CSE
01/03/2013 - 9,092,971
04/03/2013 - 8,866,912
05/03/2013 - 8,827,671

24TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase Empty Re: TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase on Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:24 am

K&M


Senior Equity Analytic
Senior Equity Analytic
@Redbulls wrote:@ K & M
I couldn't find the above transaction on 05/03/2013 SWOT report.

They have changed it mate. I sent a email to Du invest refer the conversation below,
To Du-invest
Hi,

Im a investor of Colombo stock exchange, i daily follow your stock analysis and SWOT reports and up to this time i had no uncertainty what so ever regarding the info provided. But i Just need to clarify 1 issue i went through. On 5th of march SWOT report indicated that there were 70 million or plus shares purchased by a foreigner, when i cross checked it with CSE daily report there weren't any such transaction.

I appreciate if u'll can clarify weather it was a mistake or if such a transaction happened on what source the information was available

As a investor we are grateful for the support you are providing us. Keep up the good work. Hoping to get an answer very soon.

Regards,
Keith

This is the reply they gave me

Dear Keith,

Thank you so much for highlighting it, there had been a file format change in the CSE source file and there was a mistake. We have also quickly checked the rest of the report to see if there were other issues and found out there were none.

Our target has always been to extract data and present them in a much easier way for others to grasp. This same data is available in many other places but they are in mere data format so it’s very difficult derive meanings out of them. Our exercise has always been to present them better so that users like you can extract the information easily.

We will be more careful in our future presentations, especially in the times of report format changes. We are very encouraged to continue to our work with loyal users like you.

Please do let us know any other information that you’d like to see on this report, whatever possible, we will do so without hesitation.

Best Regards,

deleted Team.

25TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase Empty Re: TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase on Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:36 pm

knockknobbler


Manager - Equity Analytics
Manager - Equity Analytics
K&M wrote:
@Redbulls wrote:@ K & M
I couldn't find the above transaction on 05/03/2013 SWOT report.

They have changed it mate. I sent a email to Du invest refer the conversation below,
To Du-invest

...............................
This is the reply they gave me

Dear Keith,

Thank you so much for highlighting it, there had been a file format change in the CSE source file and there was a mistake. We have also quickly checked the rest of the report to see if there were other issues and found out there were none.
..........................

deleted Team.



Their reasoning is pathetic.
file format change in the CSE source file .....there was a mistake ? Can anyone believe this type of clarification ?
Publishing this type of info, even for one day can make a big impact in the share price following day. That didn't happen because website is not known to many ,and the news didn't get propagated.
Anyway, This is a good lesson .

26TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase Empty Re: TWOD 70 Million Foreign Purchase on Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:54 pm

Redbulls

Redbulls
Director - Equity Analytics
Director - Equity Analytics
Compare to them our forum is more reliable.

@knockknobbler wrote:
K&M wrote:
@Redbulls wrote:@ K & M
I couldn't find the above transaction on 05/03/2013 SWOT report.

They have changed it mate. I sent a email to Du invest refer the conversation below,
To Du-invest

...............................
This is the reply they gave me

Dear Keith,

Thank you so much for highlighting it, there had been a file format change in the CSE source file and there was a mistake. We have also quickly checked the rest of the report to see if there were other issues and found out there were none.
..........................

deleted Team.



Their reasoning is pathetic.
file format change in the CSE source file .....there was a mistake ? Can anyone believe this type of clarification ?
Publishing this type of info, even for one day can make a big impact in the share price following day. That didn't happen because website is not known to many ,and the news didn't get propagated.
Anyway, This is a good lesson .

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